[SWE] The truth about the Sweden-Germany conflict
Svenska Statens Infocenter
This is an article written by the Swedish government regarding the situation between Sweden and Germany.
Sweden has ever since the foundation of Atlantis, been one of the core nations in the alliance, we’ve been called “the rock of Atlantis”. Sweden has, after Romania, been the nation dealing the most damage in battles and we’ve spent many thousands of gold protecting other Atlantis countries. We have offered to lend massive amounts of gold to nations in need of it. We’ve sent our army all over the world to prevent TO. When Norway got TO by Hungary, who then threatened to attack and conquer Finland, we prevented them by taking the bordering region between the two countries, and we paid for it ourselves, for the good of Atlantis. We’ve never asked for anything in return for all these favors. But now we ask Atlantis to not let Germany join Atlantis. Germany is not an Atlantis member, but a trial member. Sweden does not request Atlantis to kick out a member, only to not let Germany join Atlantis.
The question why Sweden wants to attack Germany is the one that is most frequently asked. The history between Sweden and Germany dates back a long time, and we have been at war several times. The war that has any relevancy now is the second one. The second time we attacked Germany, it was because of the polish political takeover that occurred after Germanys conquering of Poland. So basically, what we did was to help Germany get rid of their polish congress. This action was something that a lot of well-known Germans, such as DKN, agreed with. In the meantime we spoke to Poland about releasing their original regions as soon as possible. Sweden was also going to give Germany back the country when the time was right. At the end of the beta period Germany wanted the country back, which was impossible because Admin had turned off the RW feature until V1 was released.
A short time after V1 was released Sweden gave Germany half of the country back and kept the other half to be returned as soon as “Operation French toast”, a failed Atlantis attack on France, was over. The deal Sweden made with the government in Germany was that after the war with France, Sweden would give back all the remaining regions except for Schleswig-Holstein, which Sweden would keep permanently because it was a High Grain region. Sweden’s original regions do not contain any High regions, while Germany had 3, all of them in grain. “Operation French Toast” was unsuccessful, and Sweden were about to give Germany back the regions. But in the 10th of January Germany started RW in all the regions with massive amounts of help from PEACE GC, spitting on Sweden and our deals. Germany and PEACE managed to take back every region from Sweden, even Schleswig-Holstein. Germany got a Swedish Q5 DS in the region after the RW as well due to a bug. After that we spent four months trying to negotiate peace with Germany which we both would be happy with. We wanted to get SH back and get paid for our Q5 DS. The response we got was that we could buy SH from Germany for 5000 gold! After that the negotiations with Germany has been at a standstill, especially as it for a long time looked as Germany was going to join PEACE GC. But Germany decided to become a passive member of Atlantis, something Sweden voted Yes for in the Atlantis forum. We thought that this was a perfect chance to finally get peace with Germany. But that is something that has yet to happen.
In the short time that Germany has been a trial member in Atlantis, they’ve already been able to leak secret Atlantis information. Sweden has given Germany chance after chance to be trustworthy and every time they spit in not only our face but in Atlantis face as well. Sweden has done all we can to negotiate with Germany, but it has not matter what we have offered them, they always want more. They are unreasonable and untrustworthy, which they have proved time after time, and we Swedes refuse to let them spit in our faces any longer. That’s why we no longer see any other way out of this. Sweden’s last offer to Germany has been sent to them, an offer which has been leaked to the UK, who then posted it in an article in Sweden.
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More bias from Sweden. Germany won't live under your paternal state of apartheid again.
Only time can tell.
Nice try...
Everyone with the slightest insight to this situation knows that this is the truth.
Well written. Voted.
>More bias from Sweden.
Opinions are biased, facts are not. This states the facts, not an opinion.
>Germany won't live under your paternal state of apartheid again.
Stop eating your shrooms - you aren't in South Africa even though you seemingly wish you were.
*yawn*
Justin, you won't have a choice much longer. It is time to pay in blood for your misdeeds.
You paid the first part payment only so you could say that. Before the article NO payments had been done from what I've been told.
When I took over office from Isy, I was informed that there were three payments, with the first one taking place one month after we joined Atlantis.
At this date, Kalle had already published his infamous article.....this admittedly delayed the first playment by 3 days.
But it took place anyhow, because we were hoping for a peaceful solution.
First of all, what does the banning of the account Karl Holm have to do with anything here? That's just ridiculous. And erhm... "[...]stayed diplomatic to find a solution[...]"? Wait, you tried to negotiate with Swedish officials? That's a big load of crap. We haven't heard a single serious proposal to try and find a peaceful solution to this. I mean come on, you gave us an offer (cannot mention any details as we actually respect the word "Secrecy"), then you stated, behind our back, that you wouldn't help us in the plan YOU suggested. You were planning on backstabbing us yet again, even though you were our allies. Sweden has done so much for Germany, and you've done absolutely nothing to pay us back.
Well spooked!
Well spooked!
For those of you who are still unsure about eSwedens honesty and their supposed attempts to "negotiate", you can get a glimpse of the "quality" of their socalled proposals in the following article:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/sweden-a-disgrace-for-atlantis-802635/1/all" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/swed[..]/all
This "proposal" is what was sent to the eGerman people yesterday.
And now is the war coming:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/Sweden/law/6597" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/Sweden/law/6[..]6597
a very late payback 😃
but you know what they say about paybacks that they are better when they are served cold 😃
I can only quote: "After that we spent four months trying to negotiate peace with Germany which we both would be happy with. We wanted to get SH back and get paid for our Q5 DS. The response we got was that we could buy SH from Germany for 5000 gold!"
Yeah, that's what I call a reasonable offer.
That was NOT my government for gods sakes, you guys are killing me.
Read what I wrote in my initial comment. I found these offers as ridiculous as you, THATS WHY I RAN FOR OFFICE. So don't make ME responsibile for something that I despised as much as you did, just because im german.
In case you still didn't get it, you have an ALLY and FRIEND in charge now in eGermany.
Learn to differentiate.
Yet you made Germany pay all kinds of money back. BS.
So the time has come were Sweden leaves Atlantis?
The next Step may bee, that Sweden join Peace.
Germany has my full support and if the MPP with the U.S. is renewed (which it will probably be) I plan to do all I can to aid the German defense.
JerryGFL is apparently a traitor because he publicized what may or may not have been a private communication.
The private communication is that Sweden issued an ultimatum to Germany demanding several German territories, gold, and to keep the rest of Germany as a vassal state. An ultimatum which no people with any pride would agree to, and which Sweden had to know Germany would refuse. This would allow Sweden justification to gut Germany like a fish.
The argument that "Germany is only a trial member of ATLANTIS" is an intellectually dishonest cover for bad behavior. If Sweden didn't want Germany in ATLANTIS, why didn't it block its' membership to begin with? Apparently, Germany failed this "trial membership" by not agreeing to be raped by Sweden.
This is the end of ATLANTIS.
Good luck, Sweden. You will likely win Germany. But someday the Hungarians and Indonesians will come for you, too. Even if you join PEACE, this shows that they can't trust you.
You write this article as if it was completely reasonable and not insane! This is a travesty. If Atlantis lets this happen it will be shown that BOTH the current alliances have flaunted their INCOMPETENCE. Is Atlantis willing to sacrifice any shred of dignity they have?
Sweden Prevails
Swedes were trying to follow Atlantis protocol. The vote on the German membership should have taken place a while ago. As far as I know. So even if this trial membership haven't ended properly we all know what the members would have voted for (remember that leaked log).
But the fact remains: eGermany is a passive member technically...
so long Atlantis!
Abdul'Allah Kazim Zyrgazi.
"If Atlantis lets this happen it will be shown that BOTH the current alliances have flaunted their INCOMPETENCE."
LOL. Both alliance? First is Atlantis, but what is the secound, Peace? We not involved this, becouse we will not help Germany, after they backstabbad all the Peace countries (maybe from Peace, lots of player will move to Sweden to fight against Germany, to have revenge)...
"That was NOT my government for gods sakes, you guys are killing me.
Read what I wrote in my initial comment. I found these offers as ridiculous as you, THATS WHY I RAN FOR OFFICE. So don't make ME responsibile for something that I despised as much as you did, just because im german.
In case you still didn't get it, you have an ALLY and FRIEND in charge now in eGermany.
Learn to differentiate."
You won't stay in cahrge forever. Presidents come and go, but the heart of the people remains the same for far longer.
Hacha Masla,
exactly, and with new player joining every day and old players leaving the game, maybe my election and my REELECTION are a sign of proof that the mindset of the german people has changed more towards being an ally, rather than being an opportunist.
You going down schnitzel eaters!
Germany spit on Sweden.
Germany spit on the loving help from PEACE GC.
Now, tell me why people would help Germany, a country whose history is full of lies towards other countries?
I might be an ATLANTIS soldier, but I welcome all PEACE soldiers as my brothers/sisters if they want revenge for how Germany cheated them after the liberation.
Germany will burn like a childe on fire!
It's time to open the Gates of Oblivion, it's time to bring chaos. Let us turn the world black, into darkness beyond which no waking eye may see, lets sweep the land and bring a fear and horror!
It's time for a new era, the era when our old, familiar ways will crumble and fall, the era of chaos!
If the activity comes with war against our principal enemy, what is it that is wrong?
What you just said walter makes no sense.
I hope you will fight for a long time.
You speak wisely, my friend. Voted.
Sweden acting like children is going to break the alliance, if i had to guess Sweden has all ready joined peace and is doing this to to break her old alliance apart.