[Libertas] Save our Country from Destruction!
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by NoTie112
Dear citizens of the eNetherlands,
I’m still astonished by the enormous growth of the political party ‘Libertas’ under my presidency, but will do everything in my capacity to represent those new members craving for those needed changes in our community and in our government as well. Libertas differs from the rest of the eDutch political parties, by representing the only real liberal-progressive movement in the eNetherlands. In eRepublik terms, this means we support an efficient government, without too much bureaucratic extras which we can’t afford as a small nation, as we're better of using those efforts to liberate ourselves from Poland
We support interventionism, but not buying ourselves out to foreign alliances and powers. But above all, we want to put the focus on liberating ourselves from ALL foreign occupations, by stopping hiding ourselves behind the symptoms of that issue which has been sickening our country for months and months. More information about Libertas’ values and political ideas, read our party program.
Can we already dress up for the funeral of the eNetherlands?
I, as political leader of one of the major parties in the eNetherlands, have read the latest interview with our President Van Spijck. I thought it was an entertaining read (Props to broersje), but at the same time, I was shocked by some of Van Spijck’s quotes. First of all, I find Van Spijck avoiding the main issue that his government has: The lack of both experience and activity.
While I admire only publishing information that is interesting and useful - and I know how stressful it is to write articles -, even I can’t agree on the lack of communication Van Spijck has had with the population the last few months since the start of his presidency. I find it arrogant to enter a presidential election without any political manifest or whatsoever, regardless if it’s a certain victory. What I find more surprising, is the fact Van Spijck insist on continuing his presidency for many more months. Even if I completely agreed on the government policy (which I clearly don’t), I find it a danger to our political system for one person to dominate the country for such a long time, even if his intentions are good.
I wonder myself how Van Spijck will be able to lead the country for anymore time, seeing his governmental teams. While I do not doubt Van Spijck himself is capable, I’ve seen that (current) government(s) are not. Yes, there are bright lights, but those can only shine thanks to the individual efforts of these specific ministries (Ministry of Information + Ministry of Finances come to mind), but the rest of the government can only be described as scattered bunch of political pions and people put on a completely wrong post (Ministry of Home Affairs, Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Ministry of Recruitment have all caused scandals or are either completely absent).
What I find more disturbing than those children diseases that every eDutch government has been struggling with (I confess: I had difficulties too during my governmental terms regarding the governmental positions) due to the lack of activity in the eNetherlands, is the naive, but destructive intentions and plans the eNetherlands are awaiting under the rule of Van Spijck.
Foremost, Van Spijck has announced his intentions to negotiate with Poland. He’s essentially negotiating with that country that has been destroying our nation for a major part of our existence. What I find more amusing (because I can’t take the suggestion serious) is the idea to rent the occupied territories. We would we paying for our own justful lands, while this government defends itself from every criticism by claiming it’s policies are to the benefit of our financial situation and ‘need to be finished’. Not only is Van Spijck trying to solidify absolute power for the coming months by already justifying his continued rule (‘’finishing the job’’), he is also selling out our country by paying our biggest enemy a forced sum of money, while the main reason this government has any value or prestige, is the measures taken to reorganize our financial system, which included cutting many expenses. Subsidies have been abolished, fighting pacts can’t be signed anymore, but our government dares to say we do have the money to satisfy our occupiers?
Van Spijck is an ambitious and seems to be a capable and generally accepted leader, but is narrowminded in his way of finding solutions to our issues. His policies keep ourselves in our miserable position. We do not gain anything by consolidating the current depressive situation, except maintaining the current power of balance in the politics. Libertas wants to bring the current government policy to it’s end, and I’m calling out everyone with the same feelings to come out of the closet and dare to oppose this political deadlock we’ve been in for (now) 4 months.
I bet you feel the same..
I propose the following things to happen, which actually increase our chances of both liberating ourselves and increasing our international position. We need to deal with the causes of our issues, not the symptoms (The most important rule to keep in mind as capable and willing administrator/governor). I want to introduce my thought on improving the state of the eNetherlands.:
1) Recruitment Campaign
Let’s face it: We will never be free from Poland with our current size of population. Nor will we able to push a strong and somewhat independent foreign policy with it. It will also help with our financial problems. There for there is a need to be put immediate priorities on Recruitment. The government is lacking in this, as the Ministry of Recruitment in it’s current form is at its best illusionary. A group of willing and ambitious players needs to get together and think of all possible ways of recruiting players. This should happen without too much intervention from above, to avoid political puppets being satisfied with a Governmental Positions and afterwards completely neglecting this most important duty. I already have opened a topic on our national forums in the Recruitment subforum and I call out all same-minded players to join me in this difficult challenge.
2) Independence
It’s already an horrible sight seeing us de facto being controlled by Poland’s actions, but that doesn’t mean we can at the same time sell out our country to opposing foreign powers as well. We need to push our own agenda in the realm of possibilities regarding our alliance. Instead of turning into a lapdog of foreign powers (increasing our population (1) also helps us breaking those chains and gaining actual respect and power), we need to think of what can help us achieve our eDutch territories and above all; Revenge for all that has been taken from us.
A concerned citizen,
NoTie112,
Party President Libertas
Former President
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I’m still astonished by the enormous growth of the political party ‘Libertas’ under my presidency, but will do everything in my capacity to represent those new members craving for those needed changes in our community and in our government as well. Libertas differs from the rest of the eDutch political parties, by representing the only real liberal-progressive movement in the eNetherlands. In eRepublik terms, this means we support an efficient government, without too much bureaucratic extras which we can’t afford as a small nation, as we're better of using those efforts to liberate ourselves from Poland
We support interventionism, but not buying ourselves out to foreign alliances and powers. But above all, we want to put the focus on liberating ourselves from ALL foreign occupations, by stopping hiding ourselves behind the symptoms of that issue which has been sickening our country for months and months. More information about Libertas’ values and political ideas, read our party program.
Can we already dress up for the funeral of the eNetherlands?
I, as political leader of one of the major parties in the eNetherlands, have read the latest interview with our President Van Spijck. I thought it was an entertaining read (Props to broersje), but at the same time, I was shocked by some of Van Spijck’s quotes. First of all, I find Van Spijck avoiding the main issue that his government has: The lack of both experience and activity.
While I admire only publishing information that is interesting and useful - and I know how stressful it is to write articles -, even I can’t agree on the lack of communication Van Spijck has had with the population the last few months since the start of his presidency. I find it arrogant to enter a presidential election without any political manifest or whatsoever, regardless if it’s a certain victory. What I find more surprising, is the fact Van Spijck insist on continuing his presidency for many more months. Even if I completely agreed on the government policy (which I clearly don’t), I find it a danger to our political system for one person to dominate the country for such a long time, even if his intentions are good.
I wonder myself how Van Spijck will be able to lead the country for anymore time, seeing his governmental teams. While I do not doubt Van Spijck himself is capable, I’ve seen that (current) government(s) are not. Yes, there are bright lights, but those can only shine thanks to the individual efforts of these specific ministries (Ministry of Information + Ministry of Finances come to mind), but the rest of the government can only be described as scattered bunch of political pions and people put on a completely wrong post (Ministry of Home Affairs, Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Ministry of Recruitment have all caused scandals or are either completely absent).
What I find more disturbing than those children diseases that every eDutch government has been struggling with (I confess: I had difficulties too during my governmental terms regarding the governmental positions) due to the lack of activity in the eNetherlands, is the naive, but destructive intentions and plans the eNetherlands are awaiting under the rule of Van Spijck.
Foremost, Van Spijck has announced his intentions to negotiate with Poland. He’s essentially negotiating with that country that has been destroying our nation for a major part of our existence. What I find more amusing (because I can’t take the suggestion serious) is the idea to rent the occupied territories. We would we paying for our own justful lands, while this government defends itself from every criticism by claiming it’s policies are to the benefit of our financial situation and ‘need to be finished’. Not only is Van Spijck trying to solidify absolute power for the coming months by already justifying his continued rule (‘’finishing the job’’), he is also selling out our country by paying our biggest enemy a forced sum of money, while the main reason this government has any value or prestige, is the measures taken to reorganize our financial system, which included cutting many expenses. Subsidies have been abolished, fighting pacts can’t be signed anymore, but our government dares to say we do have the money to satisfy our occupiers?
Van Spijck is an ambitious and seems to be a capable and generally accepted leader, but is narrowminded in his way of finding solutions to our issues. His policies keep ourselves in our miserable position. We do not gain anything by consolidating the current depressive situation, except maintaining the current power of balance in the politics. Libertas wants to bring the current government policy to it’s end, and I’m calling out everyone with the same feelings to come out of the closet and dare to oppose this political deadlock we’ve been in for (now) 4 months.
I bet you feel the same..
I propose the following things to happen, which actually increase our chances of both liberating ourselves and increasing our international position. We need to deal with the causes of our issues, not the symptoms (The most important rule to keep in mind as capable and willing administrator/governor). I want to introduce my thought on improving the state of the eNetherlands.:
1) Recruitment Campaign
Let’s face it: We will never be free from Poland with our current size of population. Nor will we able to push a strong and somewhat independent foreign policy with it. It will also help with our financial problems. There for there is a need to be put immediate priorities on Recruitment. The government is lacking in this, as the Ministry of Recruitment in it’s current form is at its best illusionary. A group of willing and ambitious players needs to get together and think of all possible ways of recruiting players. This should happen without too much intervention from above, to avoid political puppets being satisfied with a Governmental Positions and afterwards completely neglecting this most important duty. I already have opened a topic on our national forums in the Recruitment subforum and I call out all same-minded players to join me in this difficult challenge.
2) Independence
It’s already an horrible sight seeing us de facto being controlled by Poland’s actions, but that doesn’t mean we can at the same time sell out our country to opposing foreign powers as well. We need to push our own agenda in the realm of possibilities regarding our alliance. Instead of turning into a lapdog of foreign powers (increasing our population (1) also helps us breaking those chains and gaining actual respect and power), we need to think of what can help us achieve our eDutch territories and above all; Revenge for all that has been taken from us.
A concerned citizen,
NoTie112,
Party President Libertas
Former President
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lastig om jou serieus te nemen zul je bedoele
Would you care to explain BartJan?
is da echt nodig? kijk naar verschillende reacties van notie uit het verleden en hoe kan je deze persoon dan sowieso nog sereus nemen? 😒
Verleden, want jij speelt dit zeker al lang hé, BartJan?
Addressing the 'growth of Libertas' that has "astonished" you... I've heard from multiple people from different parties that you're buying off their members or giving some of your delightful little 'innocent donations' to them and they in exchange come over to your party. That is mighty astonishing, if what so many people tell me is true.
zoals heel duidelijk te zien op mijn profielpagina, nee ik speel dit nog maar kort.
gelukkig heeft deze site een uitstekende documentatie, waar alle artikelen nog steeds te vinden zijn.
v+s
I still am curious how you want to free eNL, I haven't seen real sollutions yet.
It's in the last section of the article.
"(Ministry of Home Affairs, Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Ministry of Recruitment have all caused scandals or are either completely absent)"
scandals or are either completely absent...
That is frankly not true, I've been updating, questioning, interrogating, and researching almost every citizenship request that comes through and also one must be patient with the time differential between me and Dutch players.
@NoTie112: I think you misinterpreted part of my interview with van Spijck. I admit that the English version is clearer in this instance, but van Spijck means to negotatiate with Poland about them paying rent to us for the territories they occupy, not the other way. So please change that in your article. 😁
@ x deadpool I hope you're familiar with the term "hearsay" and that it is not viewed as proof or trustworthy in general. Unless NoTie offered you 1000 gold to join his party and you have a screenshot of that, please stop spreading false rumours.
Weirdstuffs has a thing for me.
Well Weirdstuff, I got a message from him about the new party and the question to join, accompanied by weapons. And I'm absolutely not alone.
As for the votes; Just like the previous article; Hardly any vote and all of a sudden at least 50 are added. And at a totally different time, so it can only be NoTie himself voting using multiple accounts. Not someone trustworthy for CP or even a seat in congress...
@eRepTrader You got so much to learn.
X Deadpool, what kind of crap argument.
eRepTrader, don't be hypocritical. The only reason you are in The Dutch Progressives, is because I sent you a message when I was it's president, so the joke's on you. It's all part of a very succesful campaign. I didn't ask you to join my party anyway, it was a general introduction which was sent to nearly all eDutch. Do you really think I'm using multiple accounts for votes? Lol? There are other ways to get known and receive votes.
NoTie.. I'm sure you use whatever means possible to get so many votes all at once. But at least we know the bribery issue is true then.
So there you go Weirdstuffs. I don't need to argue. It was admitted by your almighty leader.
Just to respond to the "pics or it didn't happen" logic, many things in RL politics like genocides, etc are rumored to happen all the time without proof, until 10 years later when mass graves are found. That might be a grim way to compare the two, but it's true.
"Stop spreading false rumors." Laughing at that one still. What a complete mess..
http://www.nizulo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/1526888-deadpool_cool_story_bro_super.jpg
Oh come on X Deadpool, are you really playing this game? Because my so called bribery is completely accepted and is being done by nearly any party. Starting parties have no other ways anyway to climb and prove their worth, due to the awfull eRep political system. The strong growth of Socialist Party is also not the result of only posting some articles here and there, but I'm not judging you guys on that, as we share the same 'issues' on that area.
LOL? We haven't bribed anyone. Else we'd be up there just like you. We're at 18 members after what, 2 weeks or so of being around? Oh yes.. that sounds like bribery. No. Please don't be an idiot. Just because you're a dirty corrupt little fella doesn't mean everyone else is. I've recruited by sending messages saying if they would like to join one of the only leftist parties in eNL, please do. DPP is dying/inactive so half of their members came over to DSP. You made me laugh hard there.
The joke's on you then.
I honestly love reading NoTie's warped logic. It's priceless at times.
You remind me of the clever little kids that know how to pull strings and lie to their parents to get the other sibling in trouble. You're almost as laughable as The Family was in eIreland.
@Xyrrath; No doubt about that. As do several other, much older players it would seem.
Don't flatter yourself NoTie. I didn't join because of you.
And you didn't ask to join you say? See for yourself http://tinyurl.com/notieinvite
Not only you're long term memory seems problematic, you're short term as well....
eReptrader: There are people who are willing to vote any article in exchange for say 20 CC per vote.
So if NoTie wants 50 votes, he can get them for roughly 1000 CC. Since eNL is a small nation, that is already enough to get to the first place in our newspaper rankings.
So I guess he's just buying them, and not doing illegal things like using multies.
That NoTie might be sponsoring Polish people this way is not unlikely, so it is a hypocritical thing to do concerning his (populist) views.
Nothing shocking or new, eRepTrader. I already said I've campaigned for my political party. If you're so principal about that, maybe you should quit TDP, as that party only exists thanks to such strategies. Heck, you might even want to leave ePolitics as a whole.
RikW: The real solution as suggested here by NoTie is simply to increase the population of eNL.
If this is the only way we want to achieve our goal, we'd need at least 1000 active eDutch citizens (10% of active ePolish people).
So we are talking about a major baby boom here. And that is something that indeed deserves some explanations from NoTie as far as I'm concerned. We'll need to have those 1000 people spread over the various divisions, so this is something that will cost months best case.
NoTie112: I'm not aware of any party actively giving supplies combined with recruitment flyers to new players to try to lure them in. I am aware of the government having programs that benefit new players, but those programs will remain unless people vote you (if I remember correctly from 2 articles back, you only were for the Forum registration bonus and not so much for the rest). And those programs are for all new citizens with eDutch citizenship.
NoTie has excuse upon excuse. That is bribery. Especially the last little bit by helping them with weapons and food if they join. You're offering a reward for their membership, along with a donation. Illegal? no. Dirty? Yes.
All DSP offers is a chance in politics and a fair opportunity to hold positions within the party. We don't offer rewards, nor donations for membership. MU's are for that, communes are for that. You're almost as filthy as the real Katy Perry.
@djirtsdew; Yes that could be the case, but then it would be spread during the day and not, as was the case on two articles, in a timespan of less then 30 minutes. First time during working hours, second saturday evening. I won't buy it that thats done via a regular buy of votes.
Hopeless *face palm*
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Responses are getting less clever from Libertas/NoTie puppets.
And why is that Deadpool?
By the way it was not mentioned towards you.
I didn't think it was. Seemed like it was in general. Who knows how the votes get on each and every article, around the same number each time. NoTie apparently knows all the ways to get votes, so he'll tell us how he did it in 7 months.
Shall I stop the waiting 7 months earlier?
The Party oriented articles are sponsored by me.
I make use of an voting system. The same system that helps me get the money every week to be able to do dmg for my current country by buying resources to build tanks and make food and using it or selling it again on our own soil.
Saying that it helps finance Poland is something I find offensive. What else helps Poland more then saying here take our 2 regions and we won't fight back my lord.
But hey thats my oppinion.
@ Recruitment Campaign
We (Libertas) are working on finding the best ways to get people joining the game. Currently this (http://www.gamelist.nl/in.php?id=665) came out as best option since this has provided us with several members in the past.
Make sure you vote that link once a day to get us higher on that list.
Back on topic for recruitment; We are still trying to find the best ways to get people join us its not something that pops up out of nowhere giving us tens of thousands
of new players a day. It is a slow and painfull way to succes.
People themselves should also look in ways to promote the game more instead of relying on governmental branches to make our community more active.
Obvious ways of advertising is posting in forums, websites, etc etc. Even in RL you can advertise by similar means for very little money or free.
Buying votes for anything is a bit dirty in my eyes. I'd rather allow my message to either be accepted or denied by the public. I won't pay for it to be number one in the papers. Bribing people to join Libertad is very despicable too, even though NoTie seems to think it's perfectly fine.
Libertas* not to be confused with my MU Libertad :l Another annoying thing about NoTie's return.
Also keep in mind Voting is 99% foreign and there still are lots of people who read these articles. I myself like to read some articles aswell. This also means people can see how we work in our country.
There is no problem with showing your oppinion on things. But recently people have been forcing the same thing over and over and to just point out how bad one thinks one is.
Ofcourse every made fair points in discussions but one can go to far making threads pile up with shit that is not
needed at all.
Deadpool: Well, fine to know we clearly differ on the recruitment of new party members. Your opinion should however not justify you outright insulting me and smearing my name. You are not to decide what is 'bribing' or what is 'dirty' and you have no reason to do so, except for slandering my name and therefor executing a poltical opponent. This is actually deemed illegal by eRepublik law, but I'm not that type of person that abuses laws and rules to silence those who I do not agree with.
NoTie, you deeming it not bribery is the same as me deeming it bribery. You're a hypocrite if you think not. As stated.. bribery is not illegal in eRepublik, but it's corrupt to quite a lot of people in eNL.
Rex Regnorum, Kathy. 🙂
''the rest of the government can only be described as scattered bunch of political pions and people put on a completely wrong post (Ministry of Home Affairs, Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Ministry of Recruitment have all caused scandals or are either completely absent).''
HAHAHAHAHAHA DID YOU EVER HEARD OF SOMETHING MORE STUPID
how do you know they are absent?
how do you know they are all incompetent pions?
do you have a clue what all the ministries mentiond above are doing all time?
This is so ******* ridiculous.
The traitor keeps writing and writing and writing...But to me he's still a traitor.
@Struis Vogel ahhhh the argumentation keeps getting better and better. Pure hate now eh? Is that the way your party tries to govern a country?
Actually I think the Ministry of Coaching is doing a great job as well. Just wanted to add that. (:
So your answer to freeing us is a recruitment campaign? I do agree we need one however we have a little over 500 citizens...Poland has over 10,000. We are not going to get 9,500 citizens over night an start RWs and free ourselves...
Save our Country from Notie!