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GO ELIBERATOR! eIsrael, learn from the best!

is that supposed to be a joke?

polgara, do you have better solution? Ah... I think I know your solution: produce and consume for Turkey 🙂

the salaries in eIsrael are SO lame that if the country will send 10 citizens to work in eUSA and transfer theirs salaries to the bank each day, it will earn more than all the citizens' taxes

polgara, I was talking about other thing here. I was talking about making profit for the country and for the future of the country. If we are cheap, we can sell cheap, and get gold into our country. This is our main advantage right now: we are cheap! We don't have raw materials, or a country full of citizens, so this is what we are doing here in Israel.

every day, the failed grain factories in eIsrael are paying to theirs 10 workers as much as 1 land worker will earn in any normal country.
so don't sell me that lame idea that is only profitable to the companies owners.

polgara, please come with FACTS! I trust in the people of Israel that they can live with the salaries they get and if they are playing each day, they will receive also the hardworking medal!
I don't try to sell nothing to you, because you are in Turkey, you seem that you are looking only for virtual money, and this is a game, and we should try not to leave Israel just for your fun, and some small money there!

And they also can earn more gold by INVITING their friends to the game. I think this is the most profitable action you can do in Israel. Bring new citizens to the country (not clones!!!).

with all the respect, how do u expect us to survive with 1 NIS a day?
how am i supposed to buy moving tickets, Q1 weapons, and maybe some better food and gifts? it would take me days to save money, not to mention the daily consum of Q1 food is almost 1 NIS each one.
this is CRAZY!

why should the people in eIsrael live with low salary?
selling products for low price will lower the money the government earn from the tax on products.
earning low salaries will lower the money the government earn from the tax on salaries.
low salaries wont allow certain products to be bought by citizens.
your idea will just make eIsrael a poor country.

p.s: i checked now, cheapest Q1 food avilable is 0.96 NIS, in fact we can call it 1 NIS, the minimum wage in israel.
so, how are we gonna buy anything else expect Q1 food?
i'm not greedy, but it's too low to live from. :/
i mean, i don't have finnancial support, and 30 days for the hard worker medal? >_>

Silvery, I pay salaries such as you can get Q2 food 🙂. Buy Q2 food not Q1. I also told that everybody can earn HARD WORKING medal which is 5GOLD!!! 5 GOLD is almost 200NIS!!! I think this could be enough. Call your friends to the game, and when they will be level 6, you will receive 5GOLD for each friend of you.
I sell Q2 with 1.5NIS which give you double wellness than a Q1 food 🙂. The Q1 companies should change a little their strategy and to sell at least at half price the q1 food, or even cheaper!!!

why should she buy q2 food? >.>
but i guess that this subject shouldn't be opened...

ok, but i dislike advarsting games since i consider it spamn, i'm a forum admin and i seriously dislike anything like spam. :/
anyway, what about weapons? it takes me 2 days to earn enough for a Q1 weapon right now with my lvl 3 skill salary, which is good compared to what i can see.
how are we going to train in wars without weapons? i think it's important to keep our people strong no? and training with weapons rank you faster which helps in dmg right? i'm still new in the game, but i like some logic.

Silvery, inviting your friends to the game is NOT spam. You can invite people, even if you think is spam, for the best of Israel. Without citizens, this country will fail. And about the lower prices... Polgara dear, we have a strong currency, if the black marketeers will come to Israel to buy their items, gold will come in Israel without doing too much effort!

i can see your point, but most of my friends is from my forum community and that's how i got here, they already have a big thread about erepublic and they invite people from there, i don't see any use for me to adversite the game when it's done already.
so no, i don't have friends to invite.
oh and, i got some bug in the hard worker medal and got it restarted althought i know i worked straight a lot of time already, yet it show 3 days in row only.
so now all my options is gone. :/

Comparing USA with Israel is making me laughing: USA is 20k people, Israel is 500 (40 times more ???). USA have high resources, Israel only medium, and only GRAIN. We should make this thing work together.

if you just want the country to gain money, give me a good reason why not to let the country to control all the companies

having only medium grain means- close all the grain companies in eIsrael

polgara, if you have read my article the reason was obvious: PRODUCTIVITY with only optimal number of employees. If a company have more or less than 10 (for manufact and land) will produce less than "optimal". If we will let only the country to control the jobs, they should have too many companies in order to hire all the people. Why close all the grain companies in eIsrael? I know people who like their land skill and they want to increase it more and more.
And our beloved Sadeh, just closed 3 weapon companies which were pretty nice for eIsrael 🙂.

lets start with the grain part shell we? 🙂
land working is the most profitable job in most of the countries in the eWorld. being able to compete against high region companies that are selling theirs products in eIsrael means that the salary for land workers is so low that each time land worker in eIsrael is pressing the "work" button, a child is dying from starvation in africa.

I support the idea My food company( Tnuport) sell q1 food in the low price of 0.95 nis

if the country have house companies it will be able to sell it's products to other countries and gain money.
by having food companies it will be able to provide as much food as the country needs, and it surely should be able to pay it's employees more than what i c at the moment in the job market.

it will not be over night, but there is no reason to the government not to be able to take over the industry in the country and by that earning much more money than atm while paying much better salaries.

polgara, the best thing for you is to come here and make a change! Create a company, or buy one. There is a gift company which has a pretty good price 🙂. I wonder how other countries could have better prices than Israel. We are young, so we can be cheap to be better and better each day. And about the LAND workers... I think you are looking only in the countries where there is IRON high!!! Look at ROMANIA, which have had very good salaries in the past, but now? They are not stable. Look at hungarians who developed their country on number of citizens and cheap products like weapons and grain.

i think about the best for eIsrael.
if i buy a company there i am afraid that i will lose the will to change the condition there and just catch a sit in the congress, like some people, and protect my interest to keep the wages low so that i will earn more money >.>
it is for the best that i will not start playing in that market.

try to check other countries salaries. i don't think that there is any country atm with lower salaries than eIsrael.
having such low salaries will surly let the companies to lower prices. the only one that loose in this proses is the normal citizen.

polgara. I have 5 companies in ROMANIA. I pay 2RON / day 🙂. The RON is even lower than NIS. I have more than 100 employees. We are in Israel, and I really prefer not to LOOK in 'other' countries. We should stay in Israel, and make our beloved country to flourish 🙂.

I'm the Great Irish Famine and I will spread the 'money' famine all over the eWorld 😃. Silvery, Israel have everything to eat!!! They really have something to eat, they don't starve, and if they don't starve, I think you should be more respectful for the jobs in Israel. I was looking on the raw materials and you really don't have any raw materials there!

Don't just look at the job market. many companies paying good wage to their workers. Just because few companies closed, the balance between the companies and workers have changed. In this moment most of the companies are full and not posting any job offers, and who already posting can make really low offers because the workers don't have many other options.

so how companies that are paying normal salaries can compete with companies that don't?

good debate here.

polgara, please come to Israel and start a business, and we will see what will happen. Post jobs with higher wages, and maybe you will be very-very happy 😃.

I totally agree. We must sacrifice from ourselves for the sake of eIsrael. Although I really dont like this method, I think its for the best, and once were in a good position, and liberated from Turkey were to go on a great way.
Polgara, I can see your point. But its more than just money, And we want our little eIsrael to grow and develop, and fast. I had a rough start, But I overcame it, I got myself higher salary, and I can constantly buy 2Q food and things are fairly well..

Again, if grain is our resource, we must invest many efforts to make it as profitable as possible. low prices means more people buing from us, means more money for eIsrael.

I opened my moving tickets company again. I hope that will stop the company owner from decreasing wages.

ok i didn't asked for equal salary as in usa, we are israel after all.
but, minimum salary that's enough for just Q2 food? i saw ur job offers in ur companies, 3 NIS is low, really low.
so, i still would like to get ur answer, how am i supposed to buy anything else expect Q2 food? if u care for our wellness, what about houses? gifts? and, i don't believe in government giving away weapons just like that, so of course i'll need to earn the money myself, which i ask, if i worked for u, how? :/
oh and, i started in eTurkey when i signed up, center discreet to be correct, if not yotamnor i would be stucked there for a long while since my salary was of course minimum for skill lvl 0.
now i was able to repay him the debt, but it's almost impossible if i haven't had that good a salary that let's me buy Q2 food and still have some spare money. :/
sorry for misspelling and bad grammer, and i sincerely hope for a good answer since i'm concerned about israel too.

Silvery, it's about the market. If I will need workers in my company, I will pay the market price, otherwise I will have my 'slaves' payed with minimum wage and offer cheap products to everybody in Israel, and outside israel 😃.

lol, ok do whatever u like, i'm not against cheap products, but i like good wages and of course i would like to open/buy my own company in the future, which makes me think, how? minimum wage not gonna help me that's for sure.
but if u believe it's good for israel, ok.
i'm capitalist, althought your way kinda remind me socialism, cheap products for low wages... lol.
and, if we talk about RL world, for example china, do they enjoy much their life with their cheap products? i don't think so, they are poor country after all, yes, pollitcly they are strong.
but the people there suffer. :/
oh well, i guess i took it to much to my heart, since some part of the wage thing is competion, there is too low man power in israel so wages will have to be better. 😁"

elib-
Is it possible for our Q2 food prices to fall so low that they can rival the world's?
What goes in to exporting it...and can we produce enough to meet international demand and bring in enough gold?

I think I get it...elib wants a deflationary policy.
Instead of raising salaries and printing money, people should focus less on the salary and more on their needs. Work for the goods, not for the cash. The more people who will work for a lower salary to produce higher quality goods, assuming that their benevolent GM will take care of their needs, productivity will max out, prices will come down to match with salaries, and the value of the eNIS will rise on the FX markets.
Our cheap Q2 goods will be in high demand overseas, bringing in gold...
But how do eIsraelis like Silvery and I, who are short on liquidity, work out a deal for necessities like food and weapons?

Running for congress is FREE! 2GOLD is for running for party president!
What my problem is right now is the:
Rec exchange rate which is very scary: 1 GOLD = 1909.94 NIS

I should repeat again: call for your friends to play the game. When they get level 6, you and also them receive 5GOLD!!! Which is very much!!! Work on getting new citizens to Israel. I don't have to many connections right now, because I stopped using messenger, and I'm also a pretty old guy in the game. Almost all my friends are already invited. Some of them are also in Israel.

small country is not supposed to be poor.
and eliberator... if i open a company in eIsrael there is no reason for me to give good salaries since i wont be able to compete against the slavers >.>

jjb817, i understand the point of low salary and cheap items.
but then everything else should be cheap, not just food, which seems currently immposible, so i still would like to have an answer, begginers like me, how are we gonna fford anything expect food with low salary like that? would u pay for our needs? i don't think so.
it's the base of capitalism to demand high wages no?
RL japan is very expensive by the way. :/

Silvery, this is only a matter of time 😉.

polgara: so come and get some 'profit'.

A SALE
for the next 24 hours my company will sell q1 food in just 0.8 nis
the cheapest price you can get for only 24 hours.
don't miss it

i've came to the conclusion youre just a slave driver, thinking human beings have just very basic needs like food and a place to sleep.
this is the same as slavery in the past, they just gave them a food, place to sleep and maybe some litle money and clothes, and that's in the good case.
one of the basic in humans is wanting the best for himself, a better house, better food and so on and that's what making technology.
as someone who came to the state of having your own company, i kinda feel like we're back to the times with nobles and commoners, this is what going on in poor countries that seel very cheap products, yes cheapness is good but it's cheap on our behalf.
it mean we can't afford anything else then Q2 food in the best case with this salasry, so we actually can't buy anything else pretty much.
oh yeah, we have basic rights right? with such a low salary you can't even move to other regions. :/
not to mention being politicly active.
the hard working reward is just as it's called, reward and is not a salary!
as i said, i understand your point but i must disagree since it's just using us the beginers or simple people, as a very cheap man power while other countries pay a lot better.
in RL israel we have a normal salary, we're not a lot in reality too but we overcoming it with brain power, we think and find ways to earn money, i don't see any reason why should it change here. :/