Dexx response to Rangeley’s “With Open Eyes”.
Eheslo
This article is a response to Rangeley’s “With Open Eyes”.
The game is based on RL. Real life borders, currencies - at least currency masks, regions etc. A few months ago the admins of this game put a new element on the main log in screen of eRepublik. It was about some happenings before day zero, before the game started. It started with a greek bankrupt, which was actual at that time in real life, but well, it is still actual. A few envisioned future happenings followed it, before we reached the day zero.
This was the final sign that the game is based on RL history. It is quiet logical, but however a lot of players denied this fact in past, and probably now too. When hungarian patriots wanted to fight tor restore the pre-Trianon borders others always said that in this game there were no Trianon. Those who were not clever enough to understand that the real life borders also means that the game is based on RL history (Otherwise where the borderlines could come from if not from past wars, before day zero?), finally must understood it when the admins put that little story on to the main page.
The game is based on RL. History, borders, regions, currencies... What about emotions, and feelings? We are not robots to turn them off, so obviously we bring our feelings from RL as well. Of course there are roleplaying, but in this game that is limited a bit, and you can not force other players to play with that. You can act and play as an ally of Slovakia, or any other country, but you should not judge those who look at them as an enemy, because of real life feelings.
The best example to understand something is always the most extreme example: If someome kill your mother, would you play eRepublik with him after that? Would you be allies in the game?
The slovaks stole our lands, just like some others.. it is an artifical state, even younger than me. They discriminate the local hungarian minority, and punish, or punch them if they speak their own motherlanguage. Their government in recent years accepted a law which have a great popularity among the slovaks: they take away the slovak citizenship - and all rights coming with it from and ONLY the hungarian minority if they accept the hungarian CS.
Of course we understand if you do not share the feelings we have about them. We do not even want you to do it. But you should accept that we feel that way and we have the right for that. Rangeley, I am sure if the Soviet Union would conquered USA and did the things the slovaks did/do to hungarians, the USA and soviets/russians would not be allies in this game.
As I said we understand you don’t share our feelings towards slovaks. It is even logical from your point of view that the two countries are allies. But you should understand that there are another point of view now in eAustria, and that is the kuruc’s.
You still keep saying Austria is not our business, get out and such.. Who tell these? Bosnians, americans, turks and such.. This country is just like ours now as yours. You said we will leave soon, and you can evade us anyway. We are still here and we stay, and where are those who got citizenships to help you in elections? Slovaks, americans, turks and hell I don’t know which nations they came from. I take a look at the approved citizenships and I see that they ALL went home long ago.
Like it or not we are here and we are coming and coming and coming, in large numbers.. You all still behave quiet childish, but you should accept the fact that we will overgrow you. We offered you almost everything to live together in peace, we offered a brand new forum what actually ours, and we own the psw lol as you left the old one’s, we offered you a ton of government positions, offered you the orgs with full of money in them. You just stole everything from them, and accused us that we did it. L O L
You acted childish and refused the cooperation. Ok, we get it, we won’t work together. It is not even a small pain for us, we totally don’t care, we did much more for the good cause than we should.. You didn’t want to work with us, so we have no reason to write our main articles in english. We don’t care if you understand hungarian or not.. We created an own state-in-state and it is developing. It’s all your fault.
Slovakia is the enemy of the kuruces. It will stay that way. It’s based on RL. If you want to critize it, remember the example: If someome kill your mother, would you play eRepublik with him after that? Would you be allies in the game?
Regards,
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dexx
Ps.: for technical reasons, I will relay articles of dexx, until further notice. Hello, Eheslo
Technikai okokból én közvetítem dexx cikkeit, további intézkedésig. Üdv, Eheslo
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nincs két goldja?
tudok intézni ha kell.
voted!
didn't read after "Dexx response..."
lol wb emmerich
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LOL, kutyát!
Oh, an article on english, QUICK, KILL IT WITH FIRE BEFORE IT LAYS EGGS!
Yes, Aemmerfag, and you are the one who defines eRepublik and you are completely right in every concern...yeah.
Thats why eBosnia and eCroatia are allied with each other in this game despite the blood which has flown in the war and the nationalist 'apathy' between them in RL.
Thats why eFrance, eGermany and eIsrael are allies with each other, despite the 2nd world war.
Thats why eItaly and eAustria never exchanged a nationalist word about South Tyrol.
Thats why eSlovenia and eAustria are brothers in this game, despite the minority conflict in Carinthia.
Thats why eSerbia and eBosnia live in 'peace' next to each other despite the massacres (havent read a single 'fuserb' or 'fubosnian' article or shout).
You are so right....
This is a game in which finally all those RL stuff can be forgotten, all the cruel stuff in the world, all the blood and sorrow - not to say forgotten - but it makes things easier and livable for some moments.
You Kuruc guys are the perfect examples of nationalist pigheads, Ive been to hundred meetings, hundred seminars about the World Wars, how they could develop, how nobody was smart enough to live in peace and harmony next to each other. Now I have finally met guys like you....You want to go to war with Slovakia in REAL LIFE?
GO AHEAD, bet youre the first who run the shit away like crying babies on the battlefields when you see that blood is not water.
Ignorant idiots. Seriously. You dont know sh*it about what you say!
Didnt see Bosnia vs Serbia article wars? I think the latest was when serbs said that the bosnian flag is like VARTA batteries companies crest and called bosnia VArta republik, in austria there are no real austrians so they do not care about tyrol, in germany same many comers and commies.
Croatians and bosnians are united in hate against serbia etc...
you ignorant refugee : D
We might have more nationalists than Hungary (but in Hungary the might be more extreme). The right extremist party has round 25% here, summed up with another one, it goes up to 30%.
@ dexx or Eheslo
on the one hand say that it's a game
on the other you say that you hate the Slovaks
I think you do not know what you mean
I will not argue with you or convince you
it takes on more life experience then we can start talking
In Austria the right wing have 30%?
Vreath, we all bow down before the logical heights of your argument lol.
Your history and current world knowledge is very very low. In this theme it is quiet a big fail to compare the hungarian norther territories issues with french-german-israeli, or austrian-italian relations as they have no even similar problems the hungarians have in the so called slovakia. It's like comparing the north korea-south korea case with the croatian-sloven border issues.
As I wrote not everyone play this game with IRL feelings, of course it is hard to play it with that when the player is totally lack of any kind of patriotism. I didn't write that my opinion is some kind of godlike revelation, it's only an opinion and argument, and I will not ask for your generous understanding because I don't wanna play this game with allies, who, after logged of the game will kick the *** out of some little boys because they speak hungarian in the streets.
Maybe the inner 'international' commie in you, stops you to have any local or homeland patriotic feelings, but that is not my problem. If you wanna play ally with your real life enemies then it is your lack of intelligence and moral skills. If you don't want that then show understanding towards those who has different friends, and enemies.
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dexx
Most komolyan essek neki angolul? Inkább nem terhelem magam.
" The slovaks stole our lands, just like some others.. it is an artifical state, even younger than me. They discriminate the local hungarian minority, and punish, or punch them if they speak their own motherlanguage. Their government in recent years accepted a law which have a great popularity among the slovaks: they take away the slovak citizenship - and all rights coming with it from and ONLY the hungarian minority if they accept the hungarian CS. "
huns say this ? who doing hard magyarization for thousand years 😶DDD
The question is, why do you go to Austria then when you know that Austria is bro-friend of Slovakia? You should try out Czech or an other EDEN country then.
But nationalists....
Vreath + 1
And yes MH48: FPÖ + BZÖ come to 30% around.
hehe, you are so funny, you do not know anything about RL Slovakia but nevertheless, you are funny
My son is older than Slotakia.....DDD
Big Vote .
Totally agreed.
We ALL are older than Slotakia ! ; )))
@Eheslo and PROTT11
only 1 argument ?
older than .....
pathetic
"for technical reasons, I will relay articles of dexx" - Emmerich is a good puppet master. He twitches a finger and all his multies dance. Oh, how he loves to make them dance and say the darndest things.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/4948906
On the issue of nationalism in eRepublik. It's true that the admins base much of their business plan on nationalistic people trying to rectify something that they can't change in RL. Personally, I pity those people for not having better ways to experience joy, because it won't last. Their lifes will stay the same, regardless of what they achieve in some game and their victories will always be hollow.
Éheslómaxxx
I don't see too much defferences between -example- eJapan and eAustria. (the point on alphabet "e") In Japan full of mangafan, mankaka, or mangakuo. They teens, like everybody else from the western world mostly except rl Japan, just like to see the big eyes and small mouths on the screen.
The kurucs like the rl based old scars and hate. They wanna virtual fights. They like to think/belive *different* than another people, doesn't matter in Great Hungary or Great Spagettimonster's Faith.
What is the different between kuruc and mangafan? Nothing, but one great reason. Imo, I like far better if kurucs are swing the scythes *here* ingame, than irl.
The PTO is dirty same everywhere, all side is want to take a flag regardless their colours. They have same rights to do anything (incl. PTO) as you; if they keep the game's rules, they can do it.
Hard to feel solidarity with you, when everybody know this is just a loser's whine, when lost his presence at the old playground.
And one more thing, Emmerich, dexx, etc. is a talented, but heavily frustrated child from Hungary, who like the puppeting and controlling the players, as his old Austrian icon from last century, but hey!
He have own right to start another one brand new character, start a movement or anything. If you don't like his character(s) or ideas, do your job *better* than he, and his friends. Push out of them, take a victory - if you and as you can.
So simple, you don't have any *moral* rights in eAustria's occupy than kurucs. - If you want power in here, at far corner of eWorld - take it if you can!
"Hard to feel solidarity with you, when everybody know this is just a loser's whine, when lost his presence at the old playground."
Emmerich got impeached as soon as possible and the Kurucs only have their own party because they created a new one. If someone lost so far, it's them.
And we actually do a better job than Emmerich ever did or will do. Austria is a respected partner for many of our neighbours and will probably join a proper alliance (EPIC) soon. Our country is stable and in no danger of getting wiped. We have daily battles thanks to some sort of trainwar with Hungary and our soldiers get supplies regularly.
Emmerich and the Kurucs would leave our current alliance system and many diplomatic ties. They would start hostilities with our friends in Slovakia and would get wiped thereafter. If they could, they would erect an autocracy where only their followers had rights. In the end, our country would be far less stable with them in power.
So it's not only a question of PTO or not. It's a question of political prudence.
Well (: Article time (:
too english, didn't read
Relationships in game are not based only on real life. If it would then Slovenia would never be friends with Austria or Hungary becouse we were under their occupation for more than 500 years...
Just saying...