In Defence of a Vendetta
Sven Goran Duran-Duran
do not adjust your television sets
In Defence of a Vendetta
Now that the dust has settled a bit, I thought I'd put my 2pence worth out there regarding the events of the last few months.
I write this article as a former PP of the real New Era and a former senior member of V, as well as having been a Minister in the ill-fated Government of BigAnt.
Now some have said that V set out to steal the Treasury and assist in a serb-led PTO the eUK.
This simply isn’t true.
Going back to the genesis of V, I would argue in hindsight that it was a necessary evil.
Indeed, the eUK was a dystopian society ran by some really nasty ego-ists whose power was entrenched through the extended use of foul play.
Their reign had gone on for too long.
However, in order to beat that monster V had to become a monster and ruthless tactics were engaged in order to match our sworn enemy’s corrupt methods.
Post the illegal and unconstitutional State-backed PTO-ing of New Era led by a madman, a new party was born with one aim – to destroy the old TUP and effect a rebalancing of eUK politik.
no more Mr. Nice Guy
V was different to New Era in its single-minded aim to usurp the old TUPfags from power.
New Era was a party born of best intentions. Vendetta’s name spoke for itself.
In the end, V was successful.
But once Keers and his cronies had left the eUK – what next for V? All of sudden we’d been handed a CP victory in our lap.
Once this “anti-monster” got into power given that our function had served its purpose, things started to fall apart. Indeed, in my opinion, the Government was always doomed in that regard.
We had achieved what we were created to achieve and that was that.
There was however, never any plan to steal the Treasury.
Nevertheless the Government began with a bumpy start.
It didn’t help that when we got into Government, large amounts of the Treasury had been “secured” and many State orgs were suddenly inaccessible, including the MoHA and MoFA orgs for example.
Newspapers were released from personal accounts in order to make do.
The Government marched on with its programme however and the first real article of business was the referendum on Sirius.
Now let’s be serious here – V knew the eUK wouldn’t vote to leave Sirius.
The reality that a majority favoured staying in – despite how we were taken into the alliance – was plain to see in the weeks of argument that preceded the vote.
So why did V go ahead with the vote? And why did we do it so transparently? Why not even try to fudge it (given that we were evil PTOers ofc mwhahaha)?
Well, the truth is ofc that V were never up for a serb PTO of the eUK.
All we wanted was to rebalance a nasty one-sided political scene that was already full of foreign imports used to back up the ruling elite.
With our aim secured, we showed our true colours by putting on a fair, honest and open vote that we knew we would lose. Why? Because we didn’t want a serb PTO.
Indeed, I don’t think BigAnt intended to steal the eUK’s gold when he got into power either and as I say, it certainly wasn’t a plan dreamt up at V HQ.
Given the unfair playing field he was presented with (see above re denial of access to orgs / “securing” of funds), he reacted.
Now if BigAnt had taken 300kcc or so and “secured” it, like Appleby did, until another V friendly CP came along – whilst still not condoning it, I would have understood.
However (despite having arguably been provoked into some sort of response) BigAnt went fully loco and stole the whole lot: the Treasury and the private rented orgs.
But for Dapper, all of BigAnt’s Ministers – including me – resigned in disgust and an impeachment proposal followed shortly thereafter.
The theft of the privately-rented orgs particularly irked me personally, as small investors were directly affected by what was – in effect – an argument with the bourgeoisie.
Bigant was duly impeached and V was PTO’d by a multi.
Having initially been held over in the interim Government of NWG – whose confidence in me I appreciated - I and many others then left V.
V members however continued to show their true colours to the eUK, as when we left V – as many of us did – we could have simply joined the Serbs for UK party and pushed them into the top 5 but we didn’t.
Why? Did we not – famously – want to PTO the eUK with serbs? Then why didn’t we help them?
Because V didn’t want a serb PTO of the eUK.
BigAnt’s comments on the matter in his final article were clear.
We now live in a post-apocalyptic eUK with both the old guard of TUP and V disbanded.
This is the New Era we fought for.
Corrupt legislation is for the most part dead, the forums are no longer the equivalent of running the gauntlet and Keers and his horrible cronies have left us. A new, nicer, TUP has been reborn from the ashes and I for one wish them well.
A resurgent UKPP has quickly risen to be a top eUK party and everyone’s 2nd favourite party, WRP, has finally achieved some deserved recognition by way of congress results.
We, as a country, can now choose were we want to go.
PTOing parties with multies isn’t a great start though.
And whilst you may see plenty of lists floating about in the press – do not be fooled into thinking that only one side is guilty of unfair tactics.
The amount of multis about is simply getting out of hand. If you look hard enough, you can see em. They hide out in places like small MUs like Prinny Squad link – as you can see here:
multies
more multies
too many to fit on the page xD
These guys aren’t serbs and they clearly aren’t V either. I invite you to draw your own conclusions as to whose multis they are.
Essentially, what I’m saying is in this post-V, post-TUP eUK why don’t we try something new and start playing on a level? No more Treasury thefts. No more multi farming. No more foreign imports inflating votes on election day.
Maybe even a little less trolling in the press?
Why not? You never know? It might work out ok in the end.
Sven Goran Duran-Duran DSO
"Theirs not to reason why, Theirs but to do and die"
Comments
o7
just for reference: the secured funds have been returned to the BoE
you and v have absolutely no defence for this fallout
Been taking lessons from Trollku have we..... The deaf, dumb and blind kid who hung out with cheats, liars, thieves and traitors for two years did nothing wrong..... and it was all the old fags/TUP/Kiers.......
At least Hollenbore has had the decency to apologise for his stupidity.
If you were any more full of effluent you would be a sewage farm. You need to change your picture, an intelligent creature like a chimp doesn't deserve to be associated with something like you, I suggest a nice picture of a leech that wold be quite fitting......
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Yes you are, clueless.
Because V didn’t want a serb PTO of the eUK.
And V PTOed UK ALONE... :/
ah bless 🙂
To be fair, only someone like you could defend such a group of people.V stole the treasury, V let in Serbians and knew of their intentions. Also, dapper didn't 'resign in disgust' Do you really want me to pull up the SS's I have?
Another point I'd like to make, stop waffling on about this 'be friends' stuff. Your group exacerbated this problem for your own ends. Don't try to tell people like me when we should be friends and make up.
"But for Dapper, all of BigAnt’s Ministers – including me – resigned in disgust "
not sure where you are reading that I said that dapper resigned.
And re the rest of your comment, i'm not sure if you follow what i'm saying.
Goddamit I misread the dapper part. But you can't just gloss over the fact that a prominent figure of V was rejoicing at BA stealing the treasury and didn't resign.
In fact he tried to make us cut our ties with Poland against our will.
You want us to play on a level? I also have. I don't make multies, I don't fake SS's, I haven't robbed the treasury and I haven't imported foreign voters. Like most of the people who are on the anti-V side of the fence.
Meanwhile V have done... one or two of those. That's me being kind.
But allow me to put my WRP cap on for a second.
Yay we did well and thanks for the mention.
dapper's gonna dapper. but look at other senior V such as hollenboer, william ross and me - what did we do? what did sir robert V do?
hollenboer, william ross and Sir Robert V and even you were on a different level. I went after the leadership, since they were making the problems. Some people such as the ones you mentioned genuinely thought they were helping the eUK. They realised (albeit too late) that they were deceived. I'm more than happy to welcome them among us. But you have to understand I'm not going to drop a grudge quickly or that I'm going to say that V was a great project which helped the eUK.
o7. good article and one that I mostly agree with. Like you say, we should now all (true UK people) be able to work together . No more treasury thefts hopefully. I thought BA would do a good job, the entire treasury theft was despicable - I hope that he will return it - if not, then his name will be mud for eternity.
Bridge over water. We all fight a common PTO enemy now. If V was not stopped more seats would allow for more PTOers... It had to be stopped. Now we move on. Ignore them and save passes for Congress elections. Together we can make things right.
that's "water under the bridge"
save passes for Congress elections? I'm not sure if letting in more people just to shift the voting power is that sensible...
It's not letting more people in. It's organized beforehand and these are people who just vote and go back. You can ask ACroc for more info.
LOL
1. I don't think anyone seriously thought V wanted a Serb PTO of the eUK. We just thought you were stupid and desperate enough to risk it for your personal gain.
2. when you have no law or constitution nothing can be illegal or unconstitutional (even a TO), your just adding words to make yourself sound more righteous.
3. That this is some kind of end goal achieved and the start of a new era may be a nice narrative for you to believe but for the rest of us its just another eday, the only balance shift is that NE and V are currently in ruins (and the fact that Keers et al left was due to DC and not you lot anyway...)
I'm not sure why you expect people to just forget what you and the other leaders of V and NE did (as a 'Monster' in your words) just because you proclaim its a new day.
As was said many times to BA, yourself, Goku and anyone else, actions speak louder than words.... and recent actions haven't exactly earned trust or respect
"and the fact that Keers et al left was due to DC and not you lot anyway..."
- bs.
DC got there first, true - but we finished the job (a job which was in fact, unfinished)
So you're completely unrepentant and are claiming the ends justified the means?
no - personally, i was disgusted at the scale of the theft, for instance. but it wasn't premeditated.
the "ends" was getting rid of Keers and his disgusting cronies.
the "means" was no different to what we were subjected to.
stealing the treasury however, along with all the private funds, never was part of the plan - it wasn't necessary in order to defeat TUP - and personally, I'm disgusted with it as I say in my article.
i think bigant should give it back.
mass importing players from an enemy country was used against you? lol don't try to pretend having Kravenn, Niemand Mitte etc in the country, or having Magicheroes as CP (a disgrace) was anything like what you did with the serbs...
PS.
4. Calling for less trolling in the media in an article where you call Acroc a madman and repeatedly refering to Keers and some others as nasty/horrible/egotist/monsters is a slight double standard, no?
Keers actually came back and took eUK citizenship BECAUSE of DC. He didn't leave because we stuck a Dental Corps Congress list up. The fact you believe he has been 'defeated' makes me laugh. He's been out of eUK more than he has been in eUK since I started the game. TUP have not been 'defeated' either.
Unlike V, DC don't wish any players harm and we don't wish anyone to leave.
Still trying to defend the indefensible
This is total and utter bullshit. V is made up of all the associated refuse from 5 years of isolating traitors, thieves, cheats and other scum. Eventually the numbers got big enough that they could get a top 5 party, and through a mix of multi accounting and importing Serb votes you got to #2 position and PTO'd the #1 party.
You never left V, you supported all of this.
BigAnt has stolen, betrayed the UK and cheated before. You knew it would happen again.
You therefore fully supported a PTO, and fully supported BigAnt and all his actions.
You might try to re-write history like you were on some noble crusade and you got mission accomplished, but all you achieved was to crash and burn, deprive the UK of all it's money and half it's top players. Well done, jackass.
#tearsforkeers
That's your response? Your childish response to the fact you wrecked a country, lost it's treasury and divided the community permanently?
Your legacy is one of failure. You, like all of V, are mediocre players who only got anywhere because over time the quality of the game sunk to the point where there was nobody better.
I'm not teary eyed at all. I'm the CO of an elite MU, in one of the best countries in the game. My newspaper and companies are just as they were before the PTO. The only thing I've lost is the need to actually help the UK. Boo hoo, less responsibilities to a broken nation.
no iain, you wrecked the country. and you created V.
the blame Spite, lies at your feet.
you reap what you sow.
I've got to disagree with you Sven in the course of your, NE's & V's, actions you became worse than what you professed to oppose. You all infact became the very thing you were 'trying to destroy' but your blind hatred of anyone else not of the same mind-set turned the majority of the country against yourselves, and that is where the blame squarely lies at yours, Dappers, Gokus, BA's and other ruling figures of the 'NE/V old guard' feet and no-one else's. The fact you couldn't, in my view, win fairly and in the spirit of the game meant that you, nobody else forced you, decided that any means necessary were justified no matter what the outcome.
When I first started this game the UKPP was my first party and it was there during BA's CP terms that the rot started to set in with the self-proclaimed leadership managing to alienate party members with it's dictatorial style, that was why I left the party and joined 1V, there we at least had a voice and if you disagreed with the powers that were you then weren't subjected to a witch hunt by those who 'ruled' the party.
Keers never wrecked the country, just the TUP ruling elite at the time kept running crap CPs and mediocre congressmen, which is why a number of people supported the DC PTO.
Meanwhile V managed to successfully let a Serb PTO group in just so they could get enough votes to actually wreck the country, simply because they didn't like the main opposition.
So overall, having Keers around was probably better than having V around.
This literally made me laugh out loud and it's a pretty pathetic attempt to try to paint Vendetta's past history in a positive light.
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.
"Because we didn’t want a serb PTO"
Which of course is why you never let in large numbers of Serbs and gave them congress seats month after month amirite?
The simple fact of the matter is the veil has been torn off and you're quickly trying to save face. This is the first month in 6 where we won't see the Approved CS page filled with Serbians let in via V. And you may not have joined their party but others from V did, Winnie amongst them.
You may think I'm a madman, but I'm a madman who spoke the truth and kept his head despite the constant attacks. Perhaps you should be paying me to teach you, BigAnt and other prominent V figures how to do so as opposed to using it as an excuse to do whatever damaging things you see in your own favour.
Oh and you had enough clear warnings what was being done and you left for a few days only to return to help muster more passes for the Serbs, It's rather late to be against it now we've managed to stop it.
"we could have simply joined the Serbs for UK party and pushed them into the top 5 but we didn’t."
This one time.
What about the previous months of giving them congress seats so they could let more in?
As I said this is purely saving face. You caused this current problem and it'll persist for months to come yet.
Don't get me wrong I'd much rather see you helping try to stop this but that doesn't mean you can rewrite the past and undo obvious wrongs through one good turn.
I attach equal blame.
Oldfags for ego, arrogance and hubris when compromise was possible and desired without.
NE/V for going the whole hog in overturning that and having no plan for what happened next.
you blame V for having no plan for what happened next? surely in the grand scheme of things - that's not a biggie?
Who were V to say what happens next anyways?
Now the field is more level, it's for the eUK as a whole to say what happens next.
Exciting times?
What! If there was "no plan for what happened next" what was the point?
BigAnt and his cronies defined themselves by what they were against not what they were for - did anyone ever see BigAnt's proposals on why we should leave Sirious?
Field level? How is importing dozens of people from an enemy Alliance whose sole aim is to destroy eUK "leveling the field"?
Because those who want to destroy it and those who want to protect it are almost in the same numbers now?
I'm sure in some messed up sense of logic that makes sense to the king pins of V
V did support a Serbian PTO by purposefully importing Serbs to act as a voting pool. NE and then V helped create this storm, now we are forced to ride it out.
Wrong , the only thing I say everything for my side has been planned, 4 months back at least, you don't and never will understan😛) have fun
Sorry, no one believes that, you just aren't that smart......seriously we have read your articles........
You and your party had very little to do with Keers and my friends washing their hands of the UK's problems. Its the constant whining from everyone that 'TUP is elitist scum' then, when there is a problem, often brought about through someone elses fault (for example, failed attacks on Portugal, failed BA terms, Chewie taking money from the treasury, appleby, UK being wiped etc) 'OMG TUP IS TO BLAME AND IF THEY DON'T HELP FIX THEN THEY ARE EVIL' followed by a total lack of support, twice, when we were pto'd from the rest of the community. V didn't count, we didn't expect support.
Further, there was a total lack of acknowledgement of our assistance in liberating PTO'd parties and keeping them from congress. At the end of the day, despite doing a hell of a lot for the country, many people felt that no-one cared. In fact, its the truth.
Your accomplishments are bollocks. Most of what you have done is run the country into the ground through constant whining. Every time there is a problem, who'd you cry to? TUP. When you want to blame someone for something, its TUP's problem.
V has done nothing good. Your successes are not your own, most lie in burnout (and they are actually not even successes, losing a substantial group of the most influential, FA speaking, citizens isn't good) and in the UKPP's time in the sun.
Stop re-writing history.
lol - if i wanted to rewrite history, I could take a lead from articles such as this:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-boh-a-history-of-two-the-early-days-2360698/1/20
are you planning a similar article about the early days of Sirius? I'm sure that will be a great read too.
you're wrong, boh - enjoy your exile.
exile? hue'd
As Bohemond and friends say, eUK is timeless vaccum, everything happened at the same time. If Vendetta/New Era is bad now, it must have been bad for it's entire existence. The present is the same as the history of forever.
How dare these heretics try to present history as a sequence of events with complex contexts changing month on month!?