A Lesson on the Law for Nith
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Brian Boru
This article is a response to "Are the guns greener on the other side?".
Among the other rather outlandish opinions in Nith's article, such as accusing two members of your parliament of withholding gold for the government, there was an accusation of unconstitutionality.
"Is this all constitutional? Is it RIGHT to willingly collaborate and oppose the Dail, even after a vote has succesfully passed?"
Nith claims these opinions to be educated assumptions, but I'm afraid where the law is concerned, they are decidedly uneducated ones.
4.3 All Teachtaí Dála can purpose Legislation with regards to government policies.
Opposing government policy is allowed by the law.
There is no provision in either the Q5 proposal or the Constitution that places a time limit on the creation of the Q5 weapons company.
There is no unconstitutional action to be found here.
Final Wor😛
Does Ireland need Q5 weapons?
Given what word I've been given on recent proposals, it is likely.
However, this does not justify irrational and ill-thought attacks on Teachtaí Dála without evidence.
This sort of behaviour is worthy of barbarians, but not citizens of a civilised country.
Ireland, get your act together.
Comments
Agreed.
Accused? See, that's where you are wrong. I repeated myself several times, where I stressed personal opinion and personal assumptions. Nor did I call any name out, ergo, not a single attack was made, just an outing of personal view. Neither did I say it was unconstitutional, I said it felt to me like it is, when you willingly work against the Dail. I left the matter to the people.
Now really mister Boru, Russia must be really boring if you still honor me with a visit? Or aren't things working out there either?
Twisting someone's words and wanting to read what one thinks is there is the behaviour of people that were traumatised when still a youngster. Getting confronted with failure repeatedly may make them flee the country, but it won't let them flee from the demons of defeat amassed from their insignifcant past, which keeps the person in question coming back to try and face the ye olde threat.
Nith, you know rightly that you were accusing people.
Stressing that it is just an opinion is merely posturing to make the accusation more palatable for people.
And via this article's comments, you are accusing me of being traumatised and a failure.
Amusingly, I have actually achieved more in my time in eRepublik than you have. Hated by many I may be, but a failure I am not.
well said nith 🙂
bout time to 🙂
😒
Binksy, that's rich coming from you.
You seem to be a professional at doing nothing.
Come on BB dont you think your going out on a limb here ?
Do we need a time limit put on all the Dail proposals to ensure something that is passed actually gets done ? Nith just wants a proposal passed by the Dail to get enacted.
Also BB come on . Nithraldur has had terms as president of Ireland and while you did do some things you never became president and you will be forever marred for your fake/joke revolution
Thank you Binksy.
BB, a last one: your profile page doesn't say so.
Ok, that one was low since a part of this game doesn't show up as a medal. However, I think you are overestimating yourself there, dearly. Perhaps the Russians buy it, but not me.
Oh and btw, I only accused you after you accused me. Nana, if it's a child's game people want, a child's game is what they'll get..eh..
"..fake/joke revolution.." wasn't funny duing my absence.
If Nith wanted to get something enacted, he should've went to Edana and talked to her, rather than coming out to the media with a conspiracy theory based on assumptions and hear-say.
Nithraldur may have terms as President, but did **** all during those terms. The fact I have done more, yet having no Presidential terms behind me is precisely the point.
Medals?
That's your response?
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
I find two-clicking incredibly boring.
Brian Boru.... still living in his cocoon of 6 months ago😛
I believe what Nith was saying is that the executive does not have the right to suspend indefinately the execution of a law. Indeed it doesn't get to decide what laws to impliment and what not to.... that's basic stuff we can presumably all agree on.
Then we're into the area of reasonable delay. That is really what is at issue.....
You say there's no timelimit on the implimentation of the q5 company..... so presumably it was intended to impliment it immediately. From the surrounding context of the debate, which you may have missed as I haven't seen you on the Irish forums much since you're so busy leading the Internationale in Russia, it's pretty clearcut that they envisaged immediate production and the creation of a set stockpile within a month. That leads one to believe there WAS infact a timeline for implimentation.
Good to have you back with your inquisative legal mind 😛
I've talked to Edana, I've talked to several Ministers, hell I even talked to common congressmen. Of course, this you wouldn't know, since you are criticising from all the way over in Russia. One of those 'changers' that think change will be brought by being in another country, doing nothing but cry?
That world of yours, could you give me directions to it? It sure looks like a fluffy pink place where everything is as you want it to be. Although I can see how you find 2 clicking incredibly boring, having only achieved 1 HW. That's not so suiting for a - for the people - communist, is it?
Anyways, enough of this entertaining bickering for tonight. Remind me to go to the store tomorrow and buy one of Russia's products that is actually worth the hassle. I bid you, goodday.
Cheerio
Cocoon? I read the Irish forums quite a bit and I lurk on the Irish IRC....
The executive doesn't have the right to suspend the executive of a law, but it is not obliged to execute a law immediately either. Welcome to Legal-Limbo.
Whether it was intended to be implemented immediately or not isn't the point, the point is that it was delayed for whatever reason, and now Nith is here with a conspiracy theory, implying that its opponents have somehow blocked the process.
I would agree with the creation of a Q5 company, but that's not the point. What I do care about is Nith here coming on, and talking a load of **** on the law and about other citizens without evidence.
"I've talked to Edana, I've talked to several Ministers, hell I even talked to common congressmen."
If that were true, you wouldn't come out here with some BS about a conspiracy to block the proposal illegally.
Go on, ask them, I dare you 🙂
I shall, but even if you have talked to them, that doesn't prove that the opponents of the Q5 company have stalled execution of the Act.
Execution of the Act is in the hands of the executive, i.e. EDANA.
I never said I had proof. I made assumptions, like I said before. I can't help it if a certain person comes out instantly and takes all the blame for it, can I?
haha brian good one
i never do nothing 🙂
and ur a fool to think so 🙂
I took no blame for it Nith. What I did do was demonstrate my alternative proposal.
You make alot of foundless assumptions Nith, I hope everyone realises that.
"i never do nothing 🙂
and ur a fool to think so 🙂"
Someone who can't even spell calling me a fool is redundant...
hahahaha its what happens when you text alot
and my point stands 🙂
In fairness.... if Nith was talking bull then he did it in the correct manner.... he was vague and mysterious.... but things are getting pretty personal in the comment section 2nite.
FREE HUGS ALL ROUND 🙂
Dubh - You mean you showed your alternative proposal and told us in the comments of Nith article that your alternative proposal was why the company hadnt been created yet. You told us you were the reason
BB - Last time I checked the MoF controls the funds and would have had to create the company. As a past MoF didnt you create some state companies ? Did the executive do that for you or did you do that work. Edana agrees with the proposal . I know this because I have talked with her about it. Thus the delay is on the MoF
Sean - Agreed 🙂
haha you are a wretched individual Brian. You are correct to say you are hated.
@Brian Boru
"Someone who can't even spell calling me a fool is redundant..."
I think you mean "ironic" as in "It's ironic for someone to make a word usage error while correcting someone's spelling."
hahahahaha quimby good on you man
or as i would usually say"good on ya chap 🙂"
take whichever version you like best
Quimby, the word was used in the context of excess, i.e. an excessive blunder.
"Last time I checked the MoF controls the funds and would have had to create the company. As a past MoF didnt you create some state companies ? Did the executive do that for you or did you do that work. Edana agrees with the proposal . I know this because I have talked with her about it. Thus the delay is on the MoF"
The whole Cabinet is the Executive, but the primary "executor" is Edana. So if something isn't getting done, it comes back to her as the person who appointed the Cabinet and the person who is supposed to oversee government policy.