Official Hungarian statement about the Belgium Issue [ENG]
eKulugyminiszterium
Official bulletin of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of eHungary
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Day 719. 02:15 server time
The Government and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of eHungary is condemning the Romanian-lead and USA-backed secessionist military and political diversion carried over in the United Netherlands.
For those, who does not know the history of the United Netherlands, here are some details:
The Union between the countries formerly known as Belgium and Netherlands has been concluded on the date of April 5, 2009 in accordance with the common will of the people and political elite of both people. See more about it in the eRepublik Wiki.
But the Romanians put their shoulders and decided to meddle in an independent country’s internal affairs. Their action is comparable to that of Otto Skorzeny in the Second World War. Romania has created a non-existent state, called Belgium. If anyone has doubts, that this is a Romanian action, please take a look on the So-called Belgian president’s latest shouts HERE. „Despre victorii si invingatori http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-the[..]1/all” Yep, this is not „Belgian”, not Flandrian or Dutch, not even Wallonian / French language. It is Romanian. Or heck…can the „Belgian” language resemble that much to the Romanian that even I can understand it? (Yes, I do speak Romanian fluently)
So far Romania was a showing itself as a champion of freedom. Now it is a champion of hipocrzy.
Romania is spitting on her own IRL history. The official Romanian version about the birth of their own country stands by the fact, that Transylvania united with the rest of Romania according to the will of the people who united in 1st of December 1918 in Alba Iulia. And the will of the people was the only one which mattered. This statement, this ideology is taught in the schools to every child.
But here we are not arguing about IRL Transylvania. Here we are arguing about the fact that eRomanians players’ minds and character are flexible enough when there is a certain situation. YES about Freedom, when Peace is oppressing, but NO when they do something stinky. Romanian brothers…you have shown your true character.
Yes, you made a pirate country in the United Netherlands. Well done! Your military power was strong enough to do it. You made your choice between really willing to be champions of liberty (thus defend poor defenseless Slovakia) or being ruthless adventurers (makig diversion in United Netherlands). We all knew from the very beginning who you are. But now the whole world can see it.
Stop being a hypocrite! You are just playing this game. Fighting and conquering is in the nature of the game. Fooling around WAS part of your game till now. But you have failed. Your greed was bigger than your sense for justice. And now everybody can see it. You cannot fool ANYBODY any more.
At the end some few words about your little American brothers, who helped you in this adventure. In the 1860’s they have devastated their own country in the Secession war. Why? Because they were denying the Confederation’s independence. So, American brothers…stop fooling around! From today you must STOP playing the role of the rightful and innocent champion of liberty!
montaigne
Ministry of Foregin Affairs of eHungary
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totally true. Romania uses every means, even the lowest ones to achieve their goals, but the wanted to play the role of a true and honest knight - and they failed in it!
Belgium showed to the world what Romanians truly are: the ruthless villains, not the fair knights!
א וועלט 'ס קאַץ עגיעסűלדזשעטעק! עס איז נישט אנדערע שטאַרקייט, ווי די סטילי קאַץ קרעל.
True words!
Agree. In Fall 2008 eRomanians declared themselves the protectors of freedom, because they liberated a part of (!) Slovakia - in the other hand, whole of Ukraine, huge parts of Hungary, Russia etc. were under Romanian yoke. Now they criticise Hungary for conquering Slovakia, but create puppet states all around the world, and liberate Belgium that had no intention to be freed.
Voted, signed 😃
Yeah, voted.
"But here we are not arguing about IRL Transylvania."
And still, this came into discussions so often. Many of your players have this problem. They use RL things in avatars, pictures, articles, comments.
This is one of the most stupidest articles i ever read.
And Americans still believe that Romania was "freeing" Belgium. xD
@Losna😛 most stupidest xD
you mean "worst"?
Obviously agreed, Romania is the biggest tyrant in the world at the moment.
vote for Mofa 😉
They shoud keep out of the UNL conflict
As long as there is a Belgian at the moment that does not wish to be united with Netherlands the RW's are valid.
Article reported for excesive RL content.
Also if there are Belgians who want to rule their own country they should just contact The Group and negotiate this instead of throwing crap at them.
eBelgium is real and it exists no matter how you try to deny it.
First of all, it wasn't an action of the Romanian leadership, it was the action of a certain romanian army group called... The Group(😃), together with some friends from the Romania, Poland, US (and so on) . You can think about us as New Age Theocrats (😛), and to blame Romania for it would be the same as blaming theocrats' country of origin.
Second, we all know the so-called union was a fraud, as the belgian "political elite" was mainly dutch. The real belgian citizens never had a saying about this, and most of them left the game. Right now the people of Belgium and the new citizens have a country of their own, with companies, press and forums. It is their right to have a country and when they can defend it, military and politically, The Group will leave Belgium.
Third, we liberated a country, while you conquered the free, independent nation called Slovakia without any reason or remorse. And yet, we're the bad guys.
To all the people here who "think" they are "liberating" eBelgium: aks the REAL Belgians first before acting. Or can barbarians not think? Also a possibility...
For the records, I'm Prime Minister of the eUNL (UNITED Netherlands) and a RL Belgian. And like almost all the eBelgians we want to stay UNITED. Can you understand that or is this just to difficult?
andyr.. Belgian political elite mainly Dutch.. who told you that nonsense. Keep your lies for yourself please, because nobody in this country is buying it.
You 'liberated' a country, yet you occupy it with your guys, rather than the Belgians. And don't give me the nonsense about Belgians having to negotiate with YOU guys, like you are their saviours. If you cared about Belgian interest and independence you would give them their country, regardless of their opinion about you. You will keep up this lie forever, just because Belgians don't serve your interests.
Voted, true words.
At least our history is better than the stuff you teach.
Want Transylvania? Take it, if you can. It's not yours.
Hey, smart guy, be careful who you call barbarians.
And i can say that i'm a "RL belgian" too, and i asked romanians to save my country. Get it?
So now that you official approve the fact that your actions reveal greed and arrogance ( among others your 'ruthless adventure' in the 'poor defenseless Slovakia'.. C'mmon you need to have some guts to come up with such a phrase.. ) you feel the need to emphasize one aspect: Your huge frustration that Romania isn't perceived as the 'Big bad wolf' titled you claimed and insist on keeping.
You speak about hypocrisy..
Quicksilver and most of your media in the pre-baby boom period was all against the TO's. Immediately after the boom, the next elections were literally flooded with Hungarian TO attempts.
Before boom you condemned Romania's imperialistic ways. After the boom it became 'part of the game'.
The world isn't black and white and no matter how you put it, there is no way to affirm (moral) superiority of one nation over the other.
@Losna😛 But you can't prove it... >_>
@dionysus, don't make me go through old articles and debates about your so-called union. As I said, when there are enough belgians in the game to be able to defend themselves from dutch ocupation, we will leave the country. right now you would occupy it again in 10 minutes if we left. Until then, we are providing them with work places and a place to leave, and every BEF from taxes goes into the creation of new companies for new workers. Is there something wrong with that ?
Meanwhile, your allies (which didn't give a rat's a$$ about holland's fights) have conquered the free country of Slovakia. I don't see any problems with that on your side. Double way of measuring "freedom" and "independence"?
Shrubbery ... the only way around this isn't DNA samples and copies after your ID, statements from friends, etc.
The solution comes with an open mind, and talks.
@Shrubbery I can prove it if he also can do more than that. 🙂
@andyr: So free press in Belgium? Liberation?
It is interesting why your group could win the elections without a single article on the intentions of the presidential candidate of the Group, alex201, just placed on the a few hours before because Kristache (who did not write any thing either) decided not to run.
And a lot of real Belgians asked for citizenship. The congress members of The Group do not bother to give it, they give it to foreign soldiers they trust. Check here: http://www.erepublik.com/en/country/Belgium/citizenship/applications/approved/1" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/country/Belg[..]ed/1
But we all understand, you are soldiers, your candidate get your votes from Romanian and other EDEN soldiers. You instruct them to vote. You are too afraid to do anything else. Even your ally,
Habraka Abrivianius, a Belgian, is not trusted by the Group.
Talking about the "fraud" union, you even do not have any idea how many Belgians comment your propaganda as being lies. You do not know language, you do not know culture, you only want to attack PEACE nation. Not a big one, because you are to weak I think. Only thing that you do is organise good your military actions and your military dictatorship in Belgium. But dictators, they will loose in the end. Freedom for Belgians, soldiers go home!
I'm sure he can, but then again, if he comes with prove, you'd probably not believe him...
You guys won't even believe Belgium and the Netherlands MERGED PEACEFULLY!
The ehungarians have the guts to call eromanians imperialists, and oppressors of small, independent nations ????
Maybe we should look at the next regions:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Bratislava" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Brati[..]lava
http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Central-Slovakia" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Centr[..]akia
http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Graubunden" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Graub[..]nden
http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Heilongjiang" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Heilo[..]iang
http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Syddanmark" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Sydda[..]mark
http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Western-Slovakia" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/region/Weste[..]akia
NONE of these regions are original ehungarian regions.
Out of 14 hungarian regions, 6 are foreign. And you dare tell that we, eromanians are imperialists ?
I suppose you are liberators, or what ?
Please, don't try to make us laugh with your jokes, you are not good at making them🙂
Great speech.
andyr: "As I said, when there are enough belgians in the game to be able to defend themselves from dutch ocupation, we will leave the country."
There are about as many reallife Belgians as Dutch in this game. This isn't Dutch occupation, but a friendly union between Belgians and Dutch. There is a Romanian occupation of Belgium.. an actual occupation in which NO Belgian has a say, whereas Belgians in the union have an equal say and even make up a large part of the government.
And what I have always said is that IF Belgium wants to be independent, it would have to be a Belgium occupied by Belgians and not by outsiders, like Romanians. So no, I can't approve of Belgium as it is right now and neither do Belgians themselves.
If Belgians were to be involved from now on, that would show us that it is more than just a colony of Romania.
@Losnad, please remove your avatar for a start. Show me your shouts in one of the Belgian languages some time ago. Than maybe I will believe you. You can say what you want, it is not convincing you have any interest in helping Belgians. Check the ones with citizenship of our nation. You can see their shouts from months ago. When you use a translator maybe you understand why Belgians did not want to live under Spanish rule and merged with the Netherlands. Many more Belgians came. About half of the population of the United Netherlands is Belgian. And they are in our government for many months now. Even the party that wants Belgium to become Belgium independent, Mouvement Independece Belgium, conndems this colonization and fight against your EDEN troops.
And check this for a moment to see what is happening: http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/hello-holland--1022522/1/20#comments" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/hell[..]ments
Who are you to decide who's Belgian and who's not ?
🙂 Cocoamok, i will never remove my avatar. This is one reason i'm not in the army, i don't wanna change my avatar. It is mine, all mine.
I will leave the rest to answer maybe another time, i writed to many comments already.
What a joke.
Huns complaining about the "indepetance" of a PEACE member country and on the same time attacking a NEUTRAL country like Slovakia.
What a joke.
Yeah those Romanians go around and TO small countries like Ukraine, Moldavia, Belgium!
GO PEACE! DEATH TO EDEN!
Sigh, oh, eRomanian...
Hypocrites of the New World.
Better bomb these guys and make sure they never break another havoc again...
You ignorant, Moldavia was unsuccessfully tried to be TO by Hungarians. Not just once. Now they have RL moldavian as a president and most of the congress. Don't spread stupid lies.
Voted and subscribed for free Belgium out of Netherlands occupation, oppression, neocolonialism and neoslavery! All hail Free Belgium! 🙂
Losna😛 You cannot be a belgian, because there are no RL belgians (only flemish and walloons). If you don't know that, that's the ultimate proof that you are lying.
Jesus, some people are acting like they are insane:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Belgian" target="_blank">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Belgian[..]gian
http://www.answers.com/topic/belgian" target="_blank">http://www.answers.com/topic/belgian
http://www.yourdictionary.com/belgian" target="_blank">http://www.yourdictionary.com/belgian
And, hungarian mentality:
"making slovakian war was a good bye gift from the ex president, its very important for us, slovakia was the part of big hungary, what was destroyd in 1920
we help for allies, of course, and romanian chickens say that we not, of course.. its was a different situacion.. we sorry
but we are the winners, we finished our job at WW 3, and we havent failes flag, like eden
go peace"
Comment by DJQuicksilver http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/1712248" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/prof[..]2248
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/slovakia-ceased-to-exist-1020761/1/all" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/slov[..]/all
I rest my case!
vote from Serbia
@PeeKaBooh: Indeed free the Belgains of occupation, oppression, neocolonialism and neoslavery. But please change the ''out of Netherlands'' in ''out of ROMANIAN''
Belgians are even being more oppressed than in our UNION, by which i mean belgians aren't oppressed at all in our UNION
This is the words of the Belgian gov😛 i mean the real one in UNL.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-m-amp-h-keep-your-belgian-citizenship-and-move-to-wallonia-1023449/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-m-a[..]1/20
And u romanians, moldaves, please stop posting comment, ure just fooling yourselves, any one could see with further research that, you guys have just invaded and TO-ed Belbium, for a next attack on eFrance and eUK, and i u wanted Wallonie , it would be to attack eGermany later.
U played ure cards well, okay, its a dirty trick , so dont call it a fair and liberating thing, ure just ashaming yourselves.
Good day to u, and let's meet on the battlefield later
PEACE, EDEN, seem to be doing the same things, then calling each other names.
a pox on both your houses.
Voted!
@Losnad,
Comme to IRC and we will have some nice talks in French AND Dutch so we can see who is the REAL Belgian here, fake boy 😉
Just give my country back and leave!
PEACE AT HOME PEACE IN THE WORLD!
lol montaigne, I expected better from you.
WAR STOP!
let's cry together...
😁))
For all new players in belgium : voted, we must make a battle Against Eden
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/for-new-players-pour-les-nouveaux-joueurs--1024181/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/for-[..]/1/20