VP: Sirius vs Asteria
Cody Caine
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Introduction
Today from the perspective of Vice President/Prime Minister of the Netherlands, I'm going to break down the Alliances from personal perspective and my take on the current situation in the Netherlands.
Sirius
Members: 6
Spain, USA, UK, Poland, Turkey Croatia.
Personal Take: The better named alliance of the two. And as Tim Holtz made clear, you can make Sirius Black jokes, puns, and all sorts of fun with that fact. Now while I don't like the treatment of Canada by members of that alliance, I have also been a citizen of two of the member nations; USA, UK, and I happen to be a fan of the current SG Mittekemuis.
Government Perspective: So for the Netherlands, the issue comes down to mostly Poland. Whom for the longest time kept us down to no regions, and I imagine there are hard feelings, but we've had a congress for a couple months now, and things were looking good. And things should have stayed that way, but they didn't. The whole thing internally has turned into a he said, she said bickering over why we face not being allowed in Sirius. Certain members of the cabinet will tell you it is all the Valeyards fault, those on the other side will tell you it is the actions of the various members of our government pushing toward messing with Belgium’s internal affairs that is at fault. As the Vice President, I can tell you without a doubt I believe Sirius is the better alliance for the Netherlands, which is why I'm so willing to share that little summary of the he said she said battle.
The fact is certain members of our government have doomed us, and they should be held accountable for their actions, instead of letting them continue to make the same bitter charged mistakes again and again. And I have no doubt, I'll be punished for speaking out, but it is the truth. Based on the nations that surround us Belgium and Germany, with Poland always within reach, I once again state that I believe Sirius the better alliance for us.
Asteria
Members: 6
Romania, Hungary, Argentina, Greece, Slovenia, Serbia.
Personal Take: Asteria, Really? Who came up with that name, it sounds stupider every time I say it. And the alliance is filled with flip flopper nations. Throw in the fact that only Argentina is a nation outside of middle Europe and you get to the point that it should be apparent not every member of this alliance has a shot to prosper.
Government Perspective: VS/MdR is pushing for the pro Asteria move. And his motives are his hatred of Valeyard, who is always high on the list of people f or him to blame when something goes wrong. Because it could never truly be his fault, or trying to get our government involved in Belgium elections. The puppet master ignores so many things in his pursuit of maintaining his control, he is not the man who should be working with Poland, there are better people who should be working on that relationship, ones who don't have a history of hatred for the country, like Lancer whom has been in national governments who have worked with Poland, UK and the likes. As I said in my personal take Asteria is in no position to aid us, and until Poland and Serbia actually go head to head in a battle, I don't believe that Serbia will ever truly be against Poland. The sheer nature of how quick the MoFA VS/MdR started making Asteria suggestions, leads to believe that was the goal all along. We are led to believe we have no choice, that is a lie, we do, get rid of the man pushing us down a path to a return to being wiped, and take positive steps toward building relations with the nations around us, instead of trying to screw them over.
Closing out: Since I always tend to be so critical of the USA [probably due to being an American in real life.] I wanted to say this; I personally support Gnilraps and Greeling to win in March. Both of whom I like for different reasons, but all the while good luck to them.
Comments
A decent look at things as they stand.
Voted
Well written and agreed upon, even if it's voiced too nicely in my opinion.
GNILRAPS 4 POTUS
"The fact is certain members of our government have doomed us, and they should be held accountable for their actions, instead of letting them continue to make the same bitter charged mistakes again and again. And I have no doubt, I'll be punished for speaking out, but it is the truth."
Voted for the truth \o/
"VS/MdR is pushing for the pro Asteria move. And his motives are his hatred of Valeyard, who is always high on the list of people f or him to blame when something goes wrong. Because it could never truly be his fault, or trying to get our government involved in Belgium elections. "
Oh that is funny, the hypocrisy that vS was pointing fingers at me that I was telling country representatives that eNL wanted to go pro Asteria (which was a lie) and now he himself is pushing for becoming pro Asteria?
One of the best eNL articles I have read in recent times. Worthy of many votes.
We found a multi 😛
Once again we are surprised when Poland wipes us. Hopefully this is the last time we make a deal or try to make a deal with them. Rather be wiped than lose your self respect.
'Murika
"... and I happen to be a fan of the current SG Mittekemuis."
We're all fan of Mittekemuis. And those who aren't, should be. 😛
" ... they should be held accountable for their actions, instead of letting them continue to make the same bitter charged mistakes again and again."
If you (eNL) are willing to do that, I'm going to be the most fanatical proponent to have eBE support eNL in getting into Sirius. I'm not sure whether eBE will have much influence in Sirius, but I'm gonna make sure we'll only talk positively about eNL when it comes up.
vS can still join Asteria, of course. Romanian citizenship would be a good start. 😛
Do what's best for your country.
yay i get a mention for my sirius black joke 😃
Voted, good luck guys and I hope you have an easier time getting into an alliance or pro-alliance than we are having in Australia.
I wanted Ásgárd too to choose Sirius, but according to the Norwegian state they betrayed us and worked against us when we were suppose to ally. I really hope this won't be the end of the Dutch-Norwegian friendship!
However, good luck onwards
Thanks for the props.
Voted.
You forgot Aurora.
lol, why would I hate this clown? Fyi: I don't hate anyone in this game, as like the name already says: it's a game. Now try to get it into your thick skull that the German NE has nothing to do with me. it's like brokenLove already stated on our forum last Sunday: by Germany occupying us, Poland only needs to NE them to get to our oil and cattle. As Kordak also already stated there: the Polish Congress prefers war over negotiations. And yes imo this also proves they have absolutely no intention to let us join their alliance. We made a perfect good deal with the last Polish gov, and then they all got replaced. And their new gov doesn't even answer our pm's ever since that time. So way before any NE of us to eBE.
You are so wrong... Poland is back to it's old greedy game without caring about any agreement they made and no one is to blame for that but them, not "certain members of our government" and not the Valeyard&co.
nice article thnx , i think sirius is better for us too , but there is always a problem , but IMO peace between powerful and weak won't last long
At first: You have leaked internal conservation.
At Secon😛 I have not participated in this conservation, i have read bits, and all i think its just internal mud throwing, i also want to state that Assteria is a joke, the only reason they look strong now is due to the DM bonuses.
Your dear MoHA
also this mud throwing to eBelgium has to stop
conservation?
I ment a conversation
Still better than Sirius who don't look strong at all
Hiding stuff from the people is not why governments are elected in this game. And MdR has chosen to lie to the cabinet by not telling us the whole story, when Lancer and I both were told Sirius command wanted us to resolve our issue with Belgium. But was this brought forth to the cabinet by the MoFA, No it was not.
Very much agreed on the fact we should be pro Sirius.
As for the analyses of things that happened I disagree with parts of it.
Fact is we were pro Sirius for a long time and were working on that for months already. The agreement with Poland we had was a nice example of how things could be. Reason to of change of focus of some members is to be found in the fact they believe Poland has veto'd us in joining. I have no evidence of that actually being the case but if so it is no use pursuing that any more as we should move further than although requesting Poland to reveal the reasons could solve things.
And some people shout or state the can solve it in no time so we could even try that and let them proof they not only have a big mouth but can actually deliver as the latter I haven't seen yet.
If it ain't the case Poland veto'd us I would be glad to hear so and would urge anyone to pursue membership of Sirius (again) and perhaps let it be done by the ones stating they are better suited to do so and make it a fact before next CP elections.
As for the whole Valeyard/Konrad discussion; It's as silly as are the discussions between GPN/DemNL for instance. It seems very hard for people to let go of personal/party interest and in stead look at our countries interest. That happens on the little scale of our parties where some at all costs try to get more power or block proposals if it comes from the "wrong" party and it happens across borders where the impact on alliance memberships are endangered by personal actions. Of several people that is. Pointing and naming just one isn't in the best interest of our countries unity either.
It would have been a better article if you wouldn't have done so but still; I agree on the analyses of alliances.
The problem is MdR has come to cabinet meetings presenting one case, and withholding information in regard to what Sirius leadership wanted from us.
The fact is they want[ed] us to resolve our issues with Belgium, but did MdR share this with the cabinet, no he did not. He kept it to himself, and maintained his course of action, this fact was brought to light fully by the efforts of Lancer. And briefly brought up when I messaged Mitte,
Asteria all the way imo, i will never fight in a alliance with Poland !
Asteria is where you want to be. When the chips are down countries like the eUS will stab you in the back.
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Nicely written article. V+S for that! 😁