The Minister for Finance Speaks on War and Love.
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Brian Boru
There seems to be a growing group of people who believe that our involvement in Greece is a massive threat to our national sovereignty. This simply is not true.
All parties who could invade us, or influence certain countries to invade us, have indicated that our involvement in Greece has been understood for what it is, the defence of a neutral nation by another, and that no offensive actions against Ireland will be taken. Any thought otherwise is heavily exaggerated paranoia due to World War III, or a calculated political manoeuvre to discredit this administration.
On the subject of the army, yes, our CoS resigned over our lack of organisation.
However, I am compelled to point out that despite days of opportunity, our organisation is non-existent after the loss of our forums. All that I've heard on the subject is that some were too busy looking for API-based organisational tools to get a decent organisation going without APIs.
It is not that difficult to set up, and I am speaking with the experience of a man who gathered republicans of all types and sent them to fight in WWI, far before the introduction of APIs. However, I am not Minister for Defence, so I'll give the man who is in that position the benefit of the doubt. That does not excuse the former CoS from acting rashly simply because organisation would be more useful now than ever.
Our involvement in Greece is far from rash and ill-thought out however.
In all areas, militarily, economically and diplomatically, we have good reasons to go ahead with this.
- Militarily, we need to stretch our legs and defend Greece, as it is a small country.
- Economically, we needed to stimulate the country anyway, and actual combat is better for getting people moving than mere wargames.
- Diplomatically, the major alliances already are aware of our position and do not intend to interfere.
The marriage idea:
I believe this to be unconstitutional.
As marriage is a fundamentally religious ceremony, the state is banned from endowing religion by implication of Section 31 of the Irish Constitution.
"31. Every citizen has the right to hold a religion in private."
The implication being that the state is unable to endow religion as it has no competence in the area of religion. Remove the state dowry part, and it may be allowable.
Brian Boru,
An Aire Airgeadas.
Comments
LOL
I agree with the War on Greece
I beg to differ on the marriage issue. Since we have no church in Ireland I believe the state should encourage and allow marriages.
nice article brian, i am also for the support of greece.
But i think the marriage idea is great!
voted!
Agreeing or disagreeing is all very well and good, but it is a constitutional matter that requires clarification.
I've given my opinion as the co-author of the document in question, but we'd need a Supreme Court ruling....
Marriage isn't really religious... it's been a (fundamental!) social institution in all kinds of societies for a looooooooooong time now. There've been lots of different types of marriages, all different from another, some influenced by one religion, some by another and I guess... some simply by practicality.
So no reason religion should be in any way involved in emarriages - I've seen a long list of practical reasons for allowing it...
"Marriage isn't really religious... it's been a (fundamental!) social institution in all kinds of societies for a looooooooooong time now."
Yes it is.
It's been a fundamental part of sociali institutions BECAUSE of the influence of religion, not on its own merits. Human beings are not naturally monogamous.
That said, I'm not against the idea in itself, I just need to be sure that we're not going to have a whole load of faith heads screaming at me for refusing to fund the dowry of a scam artist.
it could be argued that joining a war is also unconstitutional
In RL Ireland, civil marriage exists, to remove the need for religious issues to be considered.
A couple getting married in a civil ceremony takes their vows before a Civil Registrar (an official of the State). The ceremony can take place in a Civil Registry Office or in some other suitable place chosen by the couple. They declare that they are legally eligible to marry, and sign their names on the Civil Register in order to be recognised as married.
And,
Under Article 41 of the Irish Constitution, the state pledges to "guard with special care the institution of marriage, on which the family is founded, to "protect the family" and its "imprescriptable rights, antecedent and superior to all positive law".
Stick that in your constitution, BB.
So, that's love covered off.
The war bit?
I'll be back to you on that one soon, too.
*mwah*
Grainne, the constitution of eIreland is not a carbon copy of the RL one. There are many things wrong with the RL one, that's why I opted to not create a clone of it when I was writing my proposals for our one.
The idea of marriage in eRepublik has not been defined enough to say that it is a mere civil marriage, again, a Supreme Court decision is needed.
Gordongekko:
"26. Dáil Éireann can Pass or Veto any proposal of War, Peace, Trade Agreement, Non-Aggression Pacts, Mutual Protection Pacts and other inter or intra-governmental contracts."
LOL, if I didn't know any better, I'd say you need a good ...... BB.
Fill in the blank in order of personal urgency.
LOL again..
26. Dáil Éireann can Pass or Veto any proposal of War, Peace, Trade Agreement, Non-Aggression Pacts, Mutual Protection Pacts and other inter or intra-governmental contracts
But of course none of this is enforceable in this game. They can of course be used as guidelines
Irish Consitution was written in 1937 and has a strong religious influence. That phrase "imprescriptable rights, antecedent and superior to all positive law" was used in the belief that a natural law above that created by humans exists, which would be unhelpful in a constitution that outlines relgion as a personal preference and seperate from the state.
... you forgot the part where women's role as mother and housewife is to be protected and not subject to economic forces pushing her into the labour force🙂
I didn't forget SP, I was waiting for an Irish gentleman to offer up his feminine side. Thank eGod you arrived!
I'm all for that kinda thing.
As I'm independently wealthy, and have no children, it doesn't really apply to me, at all!
@Brian....Blah...Blah...Blah..(Sorry Brian, that's the wife talking to me in the background)....
Reference you concerns....."As marriage is a fundamentally religious ceremony" ....Brian...that's only your option....relax, if the Fr.Tayto thing is getting to you.......I shall change into my Crispy "ELVIS" Jump Suit....ahh-haaaa.
Ref 31. First of all, good to know there is a "31"....better still in that is has nothing to do with marriage.
Remove state dowry.....it's a little token of recognition from the state for a bit of entertainment....LOOK... VOTE "No" if you want to...it's your Vote.
*Tayto brushing down the old lady killer JUMP SUIT with special tight Crotch and blue suede shoes*....VEGAS here we come
What does the fact you are Minister for Finance have anything to do with it? Should it not be 'Brian Boru speaks on love and war'
Unless you starting a new trend - no names, just titles.
This message was brought to you by the Minister for Information, Immigration Secretary, Party President of Independent Voices etc etc.
Tayto, Section 31 has everything to do with marriage if marriage is to be a religious institution.
The state should have no obligation to pay a dowry for a private ceremony, and if it is religious, then it is legally banned from doing so.
great article, stimulates
The state may bind itself to any action in relation to a private individuals, including a payment in money or in goods or non-monetary gift....
otherwise your public-private overseas RM companies subsidies wouldn't be posssible Brian would they. And that would be a shame since they will be of great benefit in helping strengthen the eIrish economy.
I said we should not have to be obligated to pay a dowry.
Not that government involvement in the private sector shouldn't be allowed.
Chill out Brian, how many marrages are you going to have??, a handful at best, and keep religion out of it, everyone gets married, religion or lack of it isn't a problem so why should it be here.
Well, I have completely left erepublik for good. But, when I saw this "article" (bundle of shit) I just couldnt resist commenting on it as its comical!
Grainne, I think you got it right by saying "LOL" :d
Regarding the part on war, its just the typical words of this warmonger.
And the bit on marriage! Well...haha, LOfukingL, get a sense of humour! All your constitutional bullshit is funny thought, provided me with a hard laugh!
Oh Bry, come back, please?
PM me, I wanna talk to you.
Don't panic, I'm not gonna propose!
LOL
You don't normally ignore my comments Brian 🙁
Bryan, I'd rather be a warmonger than a coward.
Both charges are false against myself, but one of them fits you quite well.
As for the marriage thing, it is ridiculous, not very practical and possibly illegal. You may not respect the supreme law of the land, but I'd like to.
If anyone claims "this is for fun", let me say this.
The marriage bill will drain state resources and time, and which is more valuable if the state ever wants to create fun for our citizens.
Which is more fun, getting married or beating the pulp out of a couple of imperialists?
Whooooaaaah Brian Boru. High King of Ireland.
I'm sure of it now. I repeat to you:
LOL, if I didn't know any better, I'd say you need a good ...... BB.
Fill in the blank in order of personal urgency.
LOL again..
Why arent you talking to me Brian? That makes me sad 🙁
Don't be sad, Dig, he's just a little bit....cranky? Frustrated? Snippy? Feeling all superior and dry?
Come on Brian, let the hair down man, drop the accountancy stance, sing a soldiers song, feel the luuuuuurrrrve. Shall I read you some Republican Poetry darling? Or sing you a wee song?
Before you got all nasty-faced, you were a fine man.
*sighs*
It may be fun and games for you grainne, but we're the eejits that have to administrate this idiotic idea.
I'd say he probably got the snip alright grainne!
Brian, perhaps you did not see my question? I will repeat it again for clarity's sake:
What does the fact you are Minister for Finance have anything to do with it? Should it not be 'Brian Boru speaks on love and war'
Unless you starting a new trend - no names, just titles.
This message was brought to you by the Minister for Information, Immigration Secretary, Party President of Independent Voices, CO of Division 12 etc etc.
It's an article title digits... There was no long thought process on the title.
Was it an official government release?