About leaving NaN
Jisugej
Dear eAus Readers,
As a congress member I can assure u, that there had been a debate on leaving NaN in the public and the senate forums also. It is not a big surprise that only a few active member has voiced its opinions. Why just a few active citizen is using the forums I don't know, but it is a fact and it is a very important fact in this case. I have been here in eAus for more than year now and as for the decision making it always looked a bit slow in important manners. This proposal (leaving NaN) by our Country President, was made by the approval of the senate chosen by You. I wasn't influenced by any party or senate member, I made my decision in favor of eAustralia, I ran through all the debates and facts I could reach. There will be always decisions which not all people would like, but it has to be taken, being in NaN did not drive us anywhere, we are wiped and occupied, so it had to be changed somehow. In my opinion we made the right decision and I hope time will show us this step had to be taken!
Cheers,
Csanat
Comments
o7
Voted O7
Giving up on NaN when the war between CoT and TWO has just started is very poor. With NaN we have been beating eChile.
NaN was 3000 + strong. It made it so we had good negotiation with both CoT and TWO.
What will happen when Indo (just like NZ) decides to join their old friends of Serbia and Hungry???? My guess is that TWO will make us give territories to Indo. We will still be occupied, but now by "allies" and not foes.
Nan 3k strong... our one Poland MPP = 9k strong..... and NaN have had nothing to do with our wins. I've been at the heart of that monster and its Scottty and War Crew doing the heavy lifting.
1. 9k people fighting for Poland < 1k fighting for eAus.
2. The wins come from TWO cutting the chile bonus. Chile has not made any of the RW a priority.
3. Being NaN allowed us to have MMPs on both sides. And fighters from all countries.
4. Queensland - http://battle-watcher.com/campaigns/campaign/41824 - check out top damage. Not Aussies.
Wow you got no idea..... ok I'm done, you will believe whatever nonsense you want to believe nothing I can do about that just keep following Government orders ok because they are MINE. Trust me out of the two of us I am the only one who knows exactly what is going on.... http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/4950116 No he is not eAussie he is eUK.... figure it out.
Look at the next 4 guys
2nd Pakistan
3rd USA
4th China
5th Romaina.
So what does that tell you. 2 - 5 are not TWO.
You are right I have no clue of your super secret plan. I won't play that way. I will be fighting for Ireland for a while.
Pakistan was a Merc and was hired to do it. China are pro TWO, Romania are Pro TWO
TheJakal was ePakistani.... NaN had a lot to do with the first win.
Lani - Please see Sr0L3n1's comment below. Thanks.
Apologies. I meant not to disrupt the conversation. But China is not pro two. Keeping mpp of old allies doesn't necessary mean we are pro two.
Not to be rude, but do you know anything about NaN? Because as someone who sees the every day functions, it isn't that great. Least not right now.
TheJakal is ePakistani Player, and he donate all the weapons for Queensland RW read the article I published on the behalf of NAN on eAustralia victory
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-nan-victory-in-queensland-2273460/1/20
ePakistan was not involve in any war that time and they had some resources to get the job done so they do it as an ally for NAN for eAustralia
They spend 100-200k or something on the battle right?
I have no idea how much it cost them but I saw them supplying for back to back 10+ hours
it's Hungary not Hungry and NaN could not beat Chile at all. We tried in the last few weeks and it did not happen.
Sorry I am a poor speller and the game doesn't let us update comments anymore.
You totally missed the point. The war between Cot and TWO has just started. A few weeks ago, CoT and TWO were friends. Now they are at war. NaN gave us the opportunity to play both sides. Now we are a Serbian puppet just like NZ has been for years.
We just left NaN two days ago after winning many RW from Chile. We were making ground being part of NaN.
A few weeks isn't very much time in this game.
This whole NaN beat Chile thing is not right Cpt Jackson. We had TWO tanks all over the place, across all divisions. I'm not saying NaN didn't work their ass off and respect to them, they will always remain our close friends. But the simple fact is that NaN cannot beat Chile.
Can you tell me why its taken the sitting senate and CP nearly 2 weeks with such a clear cut majority to vote out of NaN and vote into TWO/ACT. These people have been around for a long time and knew what they wanted but stuffed it up so badly that the next favourable senate/cp could take this to the I.G. who would look and see the clear cut abuse of procedure and reverse it. Then where would we be, ALL because they could not follow a few procedures. If done correctly we would have been in TWO/ACT 5 days ago without all this crap.
It was never the intention of Mojo to leave NaN. We gave it a shot, I was the NaN Rep. I advised Mollyjo that we needed to get out of the disorganized cluster**** of chaos. (that was two days before the mass message thing) I saw so many flaws there I won't list them all but the main one is they expanded too quickly, with 7 small and wiped nations being members there is no big country that would even look at it.
Lets be honest an alliance where eAus is the biggest nation is not going anywhere.
TWO called Scotty and myself to a meeting (Molly Tim and Cal were not around) and gave us an update of the situation from their side.... (Who remembers the last NaN update?)
It was after then Scottty did the mass PM to senators, got the numbers and asked Molly Jo to begin the in game vote because there was very clear majority and no need to tie it all down for days in senate.
Days is the biggest exaggeration ever. It would have taken at the most 24 hours extra. You had everything in your court and still you f***ed up. Now that is pretty hard to do.
24hrs discussion 24 hour forum vote 24 hour in game vote. That would be 3 days minimum to achieve the same result. Besides how is it messed up? 8-1 is a rather decisive result, the vote in game has passed, the moronic impeachment failed... 7 days of Molly being unimpeachable.... and who messed up? 😉
I am saying you f***ed up the process, there was no need to cut corners everything was in your favor and yet you still messed that up. 24 hour discussion had already happened. Therefor with only the forum vote left that was only tying it down for 1 day. Its not exactly like it was a time senstive issue.
In game vote passed. That is the only thing that matters.
Process? You Red Tape lovers are the worst kind of players.
"the next favourable senate/cp"
You know what that says to me, you are not in favor of the current administration, probably just like everyone else making this into a crap fest that it doesn't need to be.
People need to calm down.
Open the door, we walked through. You wanted to see what the Revolution is about? Are you Entertained yet? 😉
As if I don't know, what it is about lol, sides I wrote the same "Are you not Entertained" theme article first 😉
yes but mine is better http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-arp-returning-power-to-the-people--2277611/1/20 >.>
Every eNation has right to choose the best for themselves and we respect that, eAustralia has every right to choose NAN, COT, TWO, Asgard etc we will respect that .....
BUT
This is not true .... "being in NaN did not drive us anywhere, we are wiped and occupied, "
We (NANHQ) was informed by the eAustralian representative in NAN Larni that getting wiped by eIndonesia & eNZ is a part of plan to trap eChile, when NANHQ ask eAus representative about NEing eIndonesia.
Regards
St0L3n1
ProConsul NAN
You mean the NE 2 weeks ago from now? By saying wiped and occupied I meant for months not weeks, it's been like for a long time, and after march making NaN the situation did not change. Don't get me wrong I liked being in NaN and supported it, but currently to make Indos and Chileans away we had to make this change, the last thing persuaded me that we have a neighboring country as an ally which is NZ...