Sad but true
egad
No, I’m not going to talk about Metallica although I like this song. This is from their concert in Bulgaria few years ago. I’m not going to talk about their concert either but I’m going to talk about Bulgaria and about the Bulgarians.
But first let’s say few words about me. I’m a RL Bulgarian but I’m eCanadian citizen for more than a year or even more. So it is not strange that I’m currently a Bulgarian ambassador in Canada and a Canadian congressman. Both countries have perfect relations so I was in a kind of eParadise here. I used past tense because I have some problems last few days.
Canada has 40 congressmen and every one of them has 4 citizenship passes so this makes 160 passes overall. The last month more than 50 of them were used to approve citizenship for Bulgarians. This was great and I want to thank for this cooperation. For those who are not aware the Bulgarians are asking for citizenship so they can sell their gold for CAD and then they buy saltpeter mines for 7500 CAD each. This way they spend approximately 7 gold for a mine. If they do the same in Bulgaria they would have to pay almost 13 gold. After they build their new companies they go back to Bulgaria and change their citizenship again. Well some of them stay here but they are less than 10 %. eBulgaria (the eBulgarians) has never ever tried to make a PTO attempt to any other country. Never!
Unfortunately this month the things have changed. Still a lot of Bulgarians are coming but now the Canadian congressmen changed their mind. Most of them don’t want to spend their passes for players who just build companies for 5 minutes and then they are gone. The congressmen want to keep their passes for people who would like to stay here longer and would do their best for Canada. It sounds awesome and it would be nice if that really happens. I mean if somebody choose Canada for his new home.
If you check the list with citizens waiting for approval and you ignore Bulgarians you will see players from ONE countries and very few other players most of them also willing to build companies. You may not like it but the fact is that at this moment there are 3 types of citizens who may want Canadian citizenship: RL Canadians, PTO-ers and ones who want to build companies. Look that even the current vice president is an American, the minister of defense is an American and the minister of foreign affairs is Irish.
The congressmen have their right to do their job the way they think is best no matter if I or someone else thinks they are wrong. The thing that makes me worry is that some of them act this way just to ask for gold from the Bulgarians. We all know about The EZStreet Scandal. But it is not only this case. Here are some other screenshots:
The last PM is not on this shot but here it is:
"Rolo Tahmasee to complex1ty | one minute ago
go ahead
I sold them all last month and I will sell them all this month. only suckers give them away for free"
And if Rolo’s act is not a surprise to anyone here are some new stars in this show:
21:05 saltydog how may i help you
21:05 doktora66 I need citizenship in Canada could someone help me
21:05 saltydog you must first complete the citizenship process
21:05 saltydog the cost is 1 gold
21:06 saltydog if you pass this process, your application will then be forwarded for fulfillment
21:06 doktora66 I think that you must not want gold from friend countries
21:06 doktora66 i talked to our MoFA
21:06 saltydog the cost is 1 gold
21:06 doktora66 Will yu give me cz? after i pay it?
21:07 doktora66 I`m Bulgarian citizen..
21:07 saltydog you must first pass the admissions process
21:07 saltydog if you pass, then you will be forwarded for approval
As a result of all this I published an article in the Bulgarian press that Canada is no longer a place for Bulgarians who want to build new companies. Sad but true.
Comments
Sad but true
I'm bulgarian... here from march 2011... (ILoveU2 is guilty!) 😃
Everyone have to manage his priorities for himself.
I found a lot of new friends here, and now I going to USA for a wile... will come back 😉
vot 31
Два пъти съм бил канадец, та знам че Роло се опитва ПТО на партии манипулира изборите за конгресмени,-за глас 10-20к5 оръжия- трябват му парици-иначе аз ходих в Холандия да си правя селитрите-даже и на к4компания може да си намериш работници стига да си купуваш суровината от вън.)Успех
The article is great, but unfortunately, what you wrote in it, is not so pleasant. It's truly sad... v64
Whoop-dee-doo. Only permanency of residence and friendly intentions matters.
egad, you're a moron. You're examples are Rolo and Saltydog.
I guess we know why the eCDN dollar is worth less these days
Yeah, way to generalize based off two people. dumbass
so I'm guessing saltydog and pluiedesetoile were either stating the 1G fee according to EZ's policy or were just riffing on it. Either way, I suppose I can see why these 4 examples could lead a person to think eCanada is the land of kickbacks.
Plugson, Salty isn't even a Congress member. All it shows is how stupid doktora66 is.
I'm sad. : (
Will eCanada richer with 1 gold "administration fee"?
Or "eCanada is the land of kickbacks"?
salty but true
Whats so Sad?
I've sold 3 passes so far for 3 Gold each, Thats 9 Gold so far, with another 3 surely coming
Supply and demand, if it wasn't worth it, people wouldn't pay
Feels like a 17 Gold Congress medal 😃
"Quand ça pluie, ça pleur"
ya, a horrible franglais translation, but might explain why the rain is so damn salty
On another note, perhaps it is sad when allies can't tell the trolls apart from the honest representatives.
Seems that it's making it hard for the Ambassadors/MoFA to do their job.
egad, rules are rules.
Either you follow our established citizenship application procedure, which takes time out of EZStreet's day to complete, or you respectfully state that you are not willing to pay the 1 gold administration fee.
Here in eCanada we would be more than happy to accept our allied friends, but only those who respect our established rules and procedures.
True friends respect the rules of their allies, and do not try to bypass them.
saltydog +1
i love how scandal transitions to accepted rule and practice lol
its all for not, as i understand what i saw on the forums e-Bulgarians gold is no longer welcome in e-canada.
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@saltydog u know that is shit , just like in eChina so tell my . Why to fight for ally who want gold from me to accept Citizenship ? Is this alliance ? As many peoples said why they dont paid me for not fighting against them ?
@kiddnes
Asking your allies to pay you for not fighting against them is simple extortion. These are not the kind of allies eCanada needs.
@saltydog It's same shit . Mean you want to pay for Citizenship . Isn't it stupid I mean we are allies ...
"You're examples are Rolo and Saltydog."
lmaoo egad, showing off the best of eCanada are we?
@kiddnes
Citizenship is granted free of charge, while the processing of the citizenship application itself incurs a 1 gold fee.
If you do not approve of eCanadian rules and procedures, we respect your difference of opinion. However, attempting to bypass those rules and even go so far as to claim they are examples of extortion - the way you have - is simply disrespectful.
This might be a good time for some kind of official representative to step in to explain the process. Otherwise, I'm almost inclined to start believing salty, since I'm not in the forum-loop like many other foreign citizens coming here.
Unfortunately as of Janurary 27 2012, the Administration fees were raised from 1g to 2.25g to compliment the fragile economic state we are currently in.
U serious? 1 gold fee. And what's stopping you from saying - "Your application is rejected."
What happens then with this one gold?
This is ridiculous and we know it and you know it. Just admit you are wrong and stop being greedy.
Some articles about eCan in Bulgaria that are not all that flattering:
http://tinyurl.com/bulgaria1
http://tinyurl.com/bulgaria2
dmg ctrl anyone?
Last month I used all 4 of my cit passes for Bulgarians to come to eCanada and buy companies.
If I had been allowed to remain a congressman this month I would of done the same.
If when I return to congress the same economic situation exists I will do the same.
Just as a suggestion for people like Rolo who sell their citizenships instead of giving them away. I have a suggestion for you.
Don't sell the citizenship. Sell them the CAD. It's much MUCH more lucrative especially since if they're bothering to come here they're buying at least 2 and as many as 5 companies.
2 x 7500 = 15000 CAD = 15 gold
15g x 1260 (lowest current price on MM) = 18900 CAD
That's almost a 4 gold profit and you're doing them a favor they'll come back for again and again.
What muglack said Or you could not wollow in the filth of false politics and money laundering.
I can't understand your accent.
The reason they already have their CAD is they have pre-sold it on the MM - 1 gold = 1260 CAD, when sell CAD I sell it 1 CAD = 0.001 Gold
It's not worth is for me to give them 1260 CAD for 1 Gold, when I sell it it only costs me 1000 CAD to obtain 1 gold
There are some that are just butthurt that they can't come here, contribute nothing and reap the rewards of our Money Market situation without it costing them anything
I have had no problems selling my passes for 3 Gold each, proving it's obviously worth it to the Bulgarians that are buying
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/jenna-jameson-1956338/1/20
Jenna Jameson Shout shout shout
@saltydog
Citizenship is granted free of charge, while the processing of the citizenship application itself incurs a 1 gold fee.
...funny , maybe we must have a green card ????
Don't be so confident or probably you will see much friendly avatars on other side of the battle ...and fee to stop this will be 1 gold.
Nice a.....
Are you....are you threatening us?
Some Allies we have here...
They want to come into our country and *USE* us for their own profits, and when we, as congressman, ask for a small cut of these profits, we get threatened
@plam1
Your ignorant comments embarrass your countrymen and make eBulgaria look like some nation of thugs for hire. Allies don't threaten allies.
We welcome all true allied eBulgarians to eCanada, dependent upon their passing the citizenship application process.
I liked Saltydog better when he wasnt playing this game.
So the individual congressman is pocketing the gold himself? You embarrass our country for few pieces of gold. I sure did not vote for anyone to profit from giving citizenship's out. Please include your intentions for profiting from your positions in congress in your next election platform so those of us who are disgusted can vote your asses out. Unless of course your willing to pay us gold to vote for you.
I'm no authority - just a congressman that tends to check things before writing comments:
There are no established citizenship application procedure - as all the parties involved in the recent legal case (R. v. EZStreet) have agreed.
It is not illegal for a congressman/-woman to sell CS either .. and that is not what that legal case is about. However, it remains to be seen if the "pilot program" was illegal, and for that reason I consider referring to that program as established procedure quite dubious.
I have chosen not to take any "CS fee" last term, and I'll not take it this term either - that is purely my choice.
I think similarly with egad and Muglack in this - although I don't agree with the calculations - but my line of thought is that I may encounter one true immigrant this term and I'll use the other three passes to do the next best thing - help our allies and in the longer run, maybe our economy too.
What egad is not expressing accuratly is that in congress we are discussing the situation, no "official" decision has been reached. It appears a concensus is beginning to form, but it has not gotten to a vote. So what I strongly suggest to the readers of this article is to contact YOUR congressmen/woman you elected and express your feelings on this topic so we can make the decision that is right for eCanada...
All the people who voted for me think it's cool that I collect Administration Fees
What OLloyd just said is true, congress is cuurently debating the SOLUTION to the issue which is defitite progress. The way it is going now there will be an official proceedure to go through for cs requests. It is a minority of congress mmembers who are charging for cs fees. Most honest congess members are trying to expose those who are commiting this act.
I have touched on the solution in my most recent newspaper article.
@saltydog
my comment was for Rolo Tahmasee - "I have 1 cs pass left and will sell it for 4 Gold"...dont blame eBulgaria if we respond with the same, my respect for eCanada was based entirely on TemujinBC ...you are way off from him...
plam1, Saltydog is a troll, don't listen to him. He hardly play the gem except moralize everyone else.
Same with Rolo. They try to teach us lecon, but they are the one who need the most.
They don't represent eCanada, and you can ignore them. Most of us do.
@Exalted Druid
@Max Maher
Perhaps you should check with out current leadership. Our President, Addy Lawrence, has publicly stated multiple times he fully supports the use of service fees for citizenship applications and those who process those applications. See the last few comments:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-ezstreet-scandal-aka-how-to-get-ezmoney--1951048/1/20#comments
These fees were collected by our government Secretary of State in a formalized, routine process. That process keeps criminals out of eCanada, and takes a fair amount of work to accomplish.
I for one support a secure eCanada.
@Rolo...shame.
Shame 8(
Hail metallica !!!