Serbia
8-3=1
Last days we witnessed how Serbia is going thru a lot of pain from Eden countries. The latest campaign seems to be focused completely on destroying Serbia colonies and is going now into the core regions. Romania + Croatia + Bulgaria are all attacking, coordinated with RWs in regions of Bosnia and Ukraine.
There has been a lot of discussion in Romania recently after the failed treaty and after Serbia took its revenge into wiping out Romania. Many have blamed politicians for failing to observe the treaty. Let's face it- the treaty was doomed. With or without it, sooner or later either Serbia or Hungary would have attacked us. We should not waste time with this issue.
But on the other hand, we should not lose our head and go for revenge. I know times look good now for us against Serbia, but I respect Serbia a lot and this is not how it should be.
I just hope these last events would be a lesson for Serbia to see who the real enemies are and figure out that the one who attacks you is not necessarily the enemy, but maybe the one who should come to the rescue- and it's not...
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Time for Serbia to reevaluate their friends.
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Loland, here we come? : D
"the treaty was doomed" - I beg to differ: our honour is doomed.
"sooner or later either Serbia or Hungary would have attacked us" - again: Serbs are men of honour, something that we need to learn. They were not going to attack us, as long as the treaty was there, on the other hand, Hungary couldn't. Of course, at the end of the treaty any option was on the table.
radu stop whining cause you cheered for the wrong side yet again.
the fact remains that, not like in our rl history, we choose not to jump wagon just to kiss some power's ass and we stood by our traditional allies. i dont have to remember you what happend last time we decided to shift in RL, do i ? that "honorable" treaty with tovarich stalin?
or maybe shifting now was ok cause you where among the elite "aristocracy" who whould have benefited from it? ( with gaspadin sabo and gaspadin romansul ) : )
"the treaty was doomed" - This isn't true. Serbs had treaty with Croatia and they respected it. Don't throw the blame on serbs. We blew the treaty, not they.
I don't care about sides, it's not about that.
Benefited from it? Give me what you smoke, it must be good.
And it's remind, not remember, learn some English, dude.
ooo but you do care about sides... your own personal side.
as i told you before i would be more than happy to share my puffs or my beer with you in rl ... but we both know that you arent going to show up.seems like that beemer cant cross the big pond : )
you wanted us to sign a treaty of vassalage and you talk about honor? yes serbs might be honorable men but you radu dearest are not . Nor are sabo and romansul your partners in crime.
no, you dont have any honour, you and your friends, you know well which of them.
that treaty was already signed, then you blew up eRomania's honour, as a whole.
they dont care it was just a side, they look at all of us the same now, because of you and your cream filled partners.
cream filled partners is about a joke but if you don't know it, I'm not in the mood to explain.
dude, signed by who? you and the "bread brothers"?
was there a referendum and i wasnt aware of it?
care to explain ( with your indepth knowledge of honor ) how honorable that cease fire would appear today in the eyes of our traditional friends ( u can call them allies as you have no friends )? Cro, Bulgaria and Greece finally launching a valid offensive and Romania sitting that one out ( sorry guys, we have a treaty with those powerfull serbs that have the habit of erasing us)?
or maybe u care to explain the fact that eden so much approved that treaty that it went all in in a rw to cut serbia's connection with bonus regions just the day we all found out about that peace form the serbs newspapers?
or maybe you are in the mood to compare that peace treaty with the one that bulgaria signed with turkey ? yes, the one where bulgaria got all its regions back form one shot in exchange of not attacking turkey for 2 months ?
or maybe you honestly believed that by kissing up serbia's behind they would eventually leave hungary behind and take romania as sidekick? honorable deeds indeed : )
honor my ass. it was all about robbing and gaining some notoriety at the expense of everybody else.
The referundum was when the president got elected, in spite of you know what.
He got a mandate from the eRomanian people, do you understand that?
Croatia just had a cease fire agreement with Serbia, don't make me laugh too hard.
There was nothing valid about that offensive, it was flawed from the very beginning. A bunch of idiots trying to pass as grown up people.
Robbing? wtf are you talking about? Notoriety my ass.
@Radu Pangaiu + Alex Dima:
Croatia and Serbia had a treaty. Which Serbs observed. And Croatians observed. But Serbian allies namely Hungary invaded Croatia. So what was the point of the treaty?
Now discussing about Romania, I was unhappy that the treaty was signed because it was meant to be broken. By us, by them- doesnt matter. It does not take rocket science to figure out same thing which happened to Croatia will happen to us- so we acted first.
However- when a treaty has no point- you dont sign it. OK it bought us some time (maybe not even that) but in turn affected our reputation with Serbia. Which is something which could be valuable to us now...
@ghishae: tu parca erai sarb : )
Serbia vouched for the German-Polish NAP. Poland erased Germany (they did not need any of those regions) and Serbia did nothing. I don't know how they can be seen as honorable. All I see are some patronizing individuals that care only for themselves. And I do hope they get what they deserve.
lol a mandate from the romanians : ) so did other presidents before and no such peace agreement went trough 🙂 and if i recall right you where pretty vocal against those back in the days. when you were not calling the shots. looks like double standards ...
should i mention the congress? they got a mandate from the people too , and they didnt embrace that peace : )
radu, i am talking about the present offensive, the one you dont spend a dime fighting in, just so you can keep kissing serbian booty 🙂
ooo and name calling, very nice indeed... or maybe you are just referring to yourself, cause the description suits you well : )
anyway, it surely sucks being you : )
@Gabriel Ioan Martin: i would blame polish for that, not the serbs...
@curcubitator
I don't think Serbia has any friends.
mai fratilor, de ce nu vorbiti romaneste ?
regarding the shameful butnaru's peace agreement tentative, that did not go through, and yes, I was vocal, and rightly so. that was before happening, cause it never did happen. had it gone through, I would have respected it.
the agreement with Serbia went through, it was settled business when you and your partners broke it.
that's the difference.
I'm not sure you're right about the Congress, but I have to check.
Why I don't fight now? very simple, our president didn't care to answer (even a negative answer) to my last article in which I proposed something. If he doesn't care, why should I? A definite NO is much better than nothing. Everybody ignored it, now I do the same. Karma is a bitch.
@8-3=1, I blame both of them. They are so alike. Greedy, condescending and selfish. So why would I like to be allied to Serbia? Just because they are powerful?
And of course, I'm talking about the e-communities. Not RL.
apropo de ce nu vb romaneste?
sau ca sa vada sarbii si croatii ce tampiti suntem dene certam intre noi..macar vb in romaneste..🙁
cat despre onoare my ass... e vb de supravietuire..cand prietenii nostri ataca serbia noi sa stam asa...ce suntem polonezi????????????
lol radu, always such a virgin : )
sure it was a settled business. a business everybody learned about from the serbian media : ) the difference is that in case of the peace with hungary the plan was brought in front of the people before engaging romania into something that heavy. the "bread brothers" you keep defending just because they are the enemies of your enemies did no such thing.
done deal you say? how about your underage president threatening everybody that if the military wont obey him he will tell serbia the the peace peace is off, blame it on the romanian army and ask serbians to erase romania ( he kept that promise didnt he? ). and that just to cover up his sticky fingers emptying the national bank 🙂
and from a gameplay point of view none went trough because the congress voted otherwise : )
so nothing was settled. and that deal felt not because of the rw in oltenia won buy a bunch of romanian oposants to the shameful peace but because of the battle in bukovina won by eden. a battle where romania had the initiative and where your president attacked one of regions that where supposed to stay into serbian hands as part of the deal 🙂
why u dont fight now? i'll tell you why. because you are tired of being runner up despite whatever you do ( tanking, blackmail or so called constructive stances ). or maybe u cant cope with the rates due on that beemer, who knows : )
astea chiar cred ca ii citeste cineva de afara : ))
@ghishae: fraticule lasa engleza ca ma dor ochii. : )
franse sil vu ple
optminus, venind de la tine e un compliment : )
"But on the other hand, we should not lose our head and go for revenge. I know times look good now for us against Serbia, but I respect Serbia a lot and this is not how it should be."
Sarbii sunt si mai increzuti si mai prosti decat ungurii. Ce respect sa ai fata de o tara care sta doar cu nasul pe sus si care ne-a tinut sub ocupatie vreo 2 luni? Si ce tratat era ala in care steam capra si mai dadeam si jumatate din tara?
Mai lasati-ma si cu prietenia din RL. Romanii din Banat si Vlahii din Timoc nu au drepturi elementare si sunt tratati ca niste tigani din prea mult respect ce ne poarta sarbii.
ne-am dat dracu de poligloti ....baietii vor sa epateze pe vecini cu cinstea, inteligenta si spitul critic. mai tata nu va citeste nimeni de afara...tot pe noi ne agasati cu pretinsee vopastre 'analize' ...corect ar fi s avb in romana avend in vedere ca e un ziar public..daca e particular locul discutiei nu e aici
guten tag
iulian.xxl: ok, urmatoru articol il scot in germana.
@Wallachian: na, sunt cam la fel ca noi acum ceva vreme : ). si noi stateam cu nasul pe sus, si noi tineam sub ocupatie cate o tara cat aveam chef. atunci era vremea noastra, acum e vremea lor, nu le putem reprosa ca fac ceea ce faceam si noi : )
si ca sa fim corecti, sarbii merita respect macar pentru faptul ca, pana la decizia ONE de acum cateva luni de a face din eRomania tinta bust nr. 1, s-au abtinut sa tancheze masiv impotriva noastra (tancau doar cand aliatii lor erau in defensiva, nu si cand erau pe atac)
wallachian, nowhere have i said we are friends with serbia iRL or that i dont know about the vlach issue. actually i talked a lot about it in this game, too bad you didn't follow me close enough to realize how vocal i was on this.
my stance has nothing to do with that so called serbian-Romanian friendship, that i know too well it doesn't exist.
Ghishae, i stopped answering to you after your last post in which i saw nothing but trolling, not a single idea there.
you can say whatever you like, however, the treaty was in place at that moment. and was broken not when all croatia tanked in crisana or when eden won bukovina, but when a bunch of ******* fought in oltenia.
when i blackmailed i won😁
to the author, write the next article in Swedish, please😁 im confident ghishae will stay away from that one😁))
/me ignores Radu vs ghi rant 😛
If you guys have a memory problem on the ro-serb treaty and what happened there, please shut up.
optminus : respect ! scrii "lose" si nu "loose"
Cred ca eu sunt singura care ma bucur de English, am citit fiecare cuvintel : )
si ce nota imi dai, profa?
naufragiatu it aint a rant its a political debate 🙂
radu i am amazed of your legal knowledge, even if its just about erep procedures and practice : )
a treaty is:
1. negotiated by diplomats
2. signed by presidents and mofas
3. ratified by congressmen
4. enforced by both sides when trouble arises
2/4 doenst make it a valid treaty.
and just to burst you bubble, it was not you winning, it was crom losing. actually he's a "worthy" opponent u can pick on with some degree of success : )
dupa cum am mai zis in articol: tratatul e irelevant. oricum ar fi fost facut, tot era irelevant. nu ca n-ar fi fost util, insa din start era facut ca sa fie incalcat. de noi sau de ei. asta nu e o acuza la adresa celor care l-au negociat, decat prin faptul ca trebuia sa-si dea seama ce va urma. si n-ar mai trebui sa acuze ca populatia s-a opus acelui tratat. trebuia sa il discute intern, si sa vada ca n-are nici o sansa sa reziste.
articolul este despre altceva- despre viitor, nu despre trecut. ce facem cu sarbii? : ) dupa cum zice butnaru, sunt cam pe acelasi fagas pe care am fost si noi la un moment dat, asa ca vor fi putin vulnerabili cand li se vor inneca corabiile...
chiar de ce au intrat pe acelasi fagas pe care noi am calcat deja? Ce se intimpla de fapt cu Serbia? ...Just asking🙂
Ghishae, Ghishae, you amaze me day by day, how much you're trying to look smart and fail miserably every time. Stop embarassing yourself hitting the bean soup with your nasal wicks... ah, that's a Romanian saying, and this is English, forget about it...
You failed to figure out the simple fact that I was not fighting crom, but the Congress. Worthy or not, it was the Congress, crom had nothing to do with that.
Please, show me a piece of document or any statement in the media, issued by the Romanian Congress when the Treaty of EDEN was signed. I want to see there the attendance, number of votes for, votes against, abstentions. If what I suppose is right, EDEN doesn't exist right now, and never did, according to your real life standards. Don't you worry about my legal knowledge, it's not about that, it's about some rules and customs for eR only. This is how it is. Butnaru's peace treaty was an exception, the Congress had a saying by stopping a war or not, through an official "game mechanics" vote. Everything is different. So, don't you dare to compare apples and pears and expect to foul somebody, 'cause you can only foul yourself.
"If what I suppose is right, EDEN doesn't exist right now"- ai descoperit America. Noi ne-am dat seama acu vreo 6 luni ca tratatul Eden era expirat si nereinnoit, asa ca sigur Eden nu exista formal.
Nu inteleg de ce tot aperi tratatul ala- ca doar nu te acuza nimeni de nimic. Am notat ca ai fost de acord cu el, ok. Eu n-am fost. Dupa cum am zis, nici nu e o situatie in care unu are dreptate si altul nu.
該死的英語!
pokkers engelsk!
modi angle!
lagrèl romanian!
radu, p0wned again : http://www.erepublik.com/en/Romania/law/79369 : )))
huh?
ca sa va dezlegati limbile si sa va spalati de engleza pe bot, trebuie sa faceti niscaiva gargara cu niscaiva screm, de baba.aveati un grai..aveati... pentru ca intre timp l-ati uitat si va impopotonati cu englezisme...nu simt decit dezgust si dispret.
@gil111: nu poti sa simti decat ce esti. ziarul meu are o baza de cititori sarbi (de ex) si articolul era si pentru ei...
So, 25 congressmen voted for peace with Serbia and 21 against? And I'm pawned? Because game mechanics asked there for 66% to stop a war?? Since when an interstate treaty needs 66%?
You make such a fool of yourself. Please, stop.
"Please, show me a piece of document or any statement in the media, issued by the Romanian Congress when the Treaty of EDEN was signed. I want to see there the attendance, number of votes for, votes against, abstentions."
"Butnaru's peace treaty was an exception, the Congress had a saying by stopping a war or not, through an official "game mechanics" vote. "
😁)
ok, so what?