[Presidential Address]Let's Talk
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Aeroner
Let's sort out our country, shall we eIsrael?
Now, I know there are a lot of issues surrounding me right now, but don't worry, I'll get to all of them.
Now, tensions have recently flared up with Daniel Ender's article, saying how eIsrael is a Jew or Israeli country, and should always be like that, free from "molestation" by American powers.
And it's not just Ender. It's a pretty big number of people that feel that way. And of course, being a Jew, I understand that nationalism, I understand that sense of pride in running your own country, especially a country so closely tied to the spirits of it's citizens.I understand it, even respect it. But that is not how we run a country. We run a country by merit. Ability. Not ethnicity or nationalism. Americans are not a parasite, choking eIsrael dry of whatever power or dignity it has. No, Americans have helped eIsrael, time and time again. This country was built by people like BuzzyTheCat, almost as famous for his deeds as Sadeh Badeh. BuzzyTheCat was a great president, a great leader, a mentor for most people. As is Sadeh. Sadeh is Israeli, Buzzy is American. And yet, they set aside their differences, and they built the foundation of this country, the foundation upon which presidents like CJ Will Win, Franz Kafka,Zaib Atsu, Joshua Hoss, Perfect.Knight, and Dean Michaely have built upon. They set aside their petty nationalistic differences, and reminded themselves what really mattered; eIsrael. Not Israel. Not America. No, eIsrael. This country, this game. Their decisions, together, made us what we are today, and they did not fight over such things. They used their energy to their own advantage, and they built the stepping stones, the corner stones, of the eIsrael we all know and love. And when they fought, and they did fight, it was not a hostile, eye for an eye fight. No, it was brotherly. And not just them, all eIsraelis of the so called "old guard". Yes, we fought, we fought a lot. But it was more like a debate than a hostile, dog eat dog, fight. We were brothers, building a country rife with problems, from Turkey to our north, or the economy within.
Yes, Israelis helped build this country. And they did it right alongside Americans, Shoulder to shoulder, hand in hand.
So, yes, Israelis who hold that position, the position that Americans are leeches, sucking the life and the politics out of eIsrael, that Israelis need to be running this country, I respect your nationalism. But don't you see? Together we are stronger. Together we are mighty, powerful.
Together, we are eIsrael.
Now, that's not to say there haven't been mistakes on the Americans side. Oh, there have been plenty of those.
One of those mistakes, is...well, I'm going to explain it to you, rather than tell you.
Seeroy. Pain in my ass when he was under that name.Pain in a lot of people's asses. But then, he joined again, as CRoy. I don't know what it was, but he had changed. He was just an awesome guy now, trying to play a game he wanted oh so desperate to have fun in.
He's a patriot, CRoy. He runs training companies out of pocket, helps babies grow, and even write a humorous article about cereal once in awhile. Now, CRoy had a dream. A dream that he could sustain a bi-national, bi-lingual party in eIsrael. I supported this vision. I joined the Israeli Democratic Party( I think that was its name), and I helped him build his party. What I did not expect, however, was the emergence of the UIIP.
The United Israeli Independent Party has a great bunch of people, future leaders, even. Now, I understand how some might see the UIIP as an American-take over, even though it is not. It is a branch of an American party, shares their forums, gets recruits from America, etc. Now, I am a part of the party, I know the inner-workings, and I know that the party is not sinister. But all those outside the paty don't, and they take it at face value, which is, admittedly, pretty guilty-looking.
When CRoy told me about his plans for created the UIIP, I was hesitant. This would be taken more as a PTO, and less as what it was meant to be, an active foundation to grow off of. The UIIP does not necessarily import people from America, but the bridge has opened because of their closeness to UIP. I understand how this could be a problem for some Israelis, and there are things the UIIP should have done. They should have made themselves more open to eIsrael, and not as close to the UIP, an American Party. Not to discredit all the things CRoy has done for eIsrael, but the UIIP, regrettably, stayed in more of a shell than it needed to be.
In my opinion, I did not want the UIIP to be created. I thought that CRoy was a good enough leader, a great leader, actually, to form and operate a functioning eIsraeli party. I did not see the need for American intervention, and I understand how some might interpret the UIIP. I was ready to join Israel First, because I liked all the people in it, and it was a better shot at unity.
But I saw the hostility towards Americans. And even though a part of that was because of UIIP, more of it was from the nationalism I mentioned early. I could not be a part of a unity party that needed Americans to be distanced from eIsraeli politics.
I regret the decisions made by some members of Israel first, their interpretations of UIIP.
I regret how the UIIP came forward the way it did, and support integration between America and eIsrael that we just weren't ready for yet, not at this time, maybe not ever.
I regret the Israeli Democratic Party for ever becoming the UIIP, because I thought it had a shot without it.
But I also regret that Israelis and Americans don't seem to want to work together anymore. We don't even try. Despite our differences, I know we can do it, but we're not trying.
So to sum it all up;
- I support the members of the UIIP, but not the idea of a party. eIsrael cannot sustain an American-based party branch.
-I am good friends with many UIIPers, and they're good people, and not the sinister PTOers some make them out to be. If the capable Israelis I know and the Americans worked together...our country run fantastically, the best in months.
-Israel First is a great unity party, but their thoughts of the Israeli Nationalism must be changed, if we are to move forward.
-I respect the Israeli Nationalism, the idea that they must control their own fate, but I cannot accept the fact that Americans need to be distanced from politics, despite merit or ability.
So accept my call, eIsrael, please. PLEASE, work together. TRY it. If it doesn't work, you revert back to your old ways, and rip each other apart. At least TRYING will be better than that.
Please, try it eIsrael. You won't regret it.
Next up, my comments on eFYROM. They were MY stance on the issue, not eIsrael's. If my opinions reflected all of eIsrael, I would have gotten 100 percent of votes in the elections, and I would have been supported by all the parties, AND all of eIsrael would just be me, and my clones. I mean, come on, do you really want two me's, let alone a 800? 😉
Now, I understand the RL Tension between Greece and FYROM. But FYROM is recognized by the UN, and therefore it is eligible to be considered. Also, if I ever said Macedonia, I meant FYROM, that is the recognized name, as Macedonia is a region of Greece.
I mean, come on guys, this is eRepublik. It doesn't mean I love Greece any less, I always have loved them, and I always will.
Let it be known Greece. First off, I meant FYROM. If I ever said Macedonia, then it was a typo of some sort. That article was discussing the legality of the issue, and since they are a RL country, they have to get the same treatment.
Now, moving onto some personal stuff.
I've lost friends in eRepublik. I've gained friends. I've gained a lot of friends actually. A during my time in politics, as Minister of Defense, as Director of Mossad, I learned to cope with people I didn't agree with, people who didn't agree with me, and they let it be known. I learned not to take everything at face value, and that friends are sometimes temporary, it's the permanent ones you have to make. And I've made a lot of them.
I've also made wrong choices, I am human, I think I am allowed that. If I lived under the charade that I was perfect, I'd be a liar, and I wouldn't be fit to lead you.
I love Israel, America, and eIsrael, I always have. I have formed my opinions and I think I know what is best for the third, and I have no doubt that if proven, some of them might be wrong, but I must try first. I must lead you in the best way I can, for that is the responsibility bestowed upon me, by you. I will not lead you astray eIsrael, and I pledge to keep myself in line, to think before I say something, and most importantly:
Treat every single one of you with respect. Israeli, American, Bolivian.
I might lose myself sometimes, get passionate about something and yell or go off at a fellow citizen, but I am frustrated eIsrael. Frustrated that success is so near, but we are using all our energy to fight, that we don't have the strength to lift out hand to grab it.
So, let's do it together. Pool our strength, energy, time, and help each other. All together.
Because that is the only way.
Best wishes,
Aeroner
Your President
Comments
wow, nice article, voted from an American in eSwitzerland
CJ=American, Kafka=British, Hoss=American. RL nationality is irrelevant. Voted.
Although I immigrated to eIsrael from eUSA and was formerly active in the eUS political sphere, my decision to come to eIsrael was independent of the UIP and UIIP. In fact, I ran against a UIP-endorsed candidate my first two elections, and I never affiliated with the United Independents Party in the eUnited States. When I came to eIsrael, UIIP was the only party that extended me an invitation. Before anyone accuses UIIP of being just for English-speaking Americans, he should consider how appealing his party is to someone who is not Jewish or a Hebrew-speaker.
Even though we disagree in almost everything, I have to agree with this article. I just loved how you addressed things from a neutral point,
" I support the members of the UIIP, but not the idea of a party. eIsrael cannot sustain an American-based party branch."
I don't have a problem with Americans, Cambodians, Serbians, anyone, you get the point, my problem which I addressed in my article is basically how people from other countries are a majority and are majority of each country. UIIP is an eAmerican branch, I will not stop until they are exterminated, noone likes the idea except goy americans themselves. Then we have Greekboy, a turkish PTO, and Rheinlander, who seems to have good intentions, but still isn't eIsraeli by birth and seems to be here for power, but I still don't know, he doesn't seem like a bad guy, I encourage eIsraelis to lead their parties, to be a majority, not CRoy, not Greekboy, not any PTO. Again, fantastic article.
My article was meant to address to you that Americans and Israelis can share power equally, together, so we can move forward.
"article is basically how people from other countries are a majority and are majority of each country."
So if that's what I think it is, you missed the point. Please elaborate Daniel.
Then we have Daniel Ender, who went from 6 to 2 votes following the illegal votes check, and who thinks Rheinlander is here for power because he wasn't 'born' here.
People are accusing me of multis, if I had multis, wouldn't I be banned?
Could we please not fight on my peace article...?
like I said in the forum.
I have no problem with Americans or other people that coming to Israel as long as they will be loyal to Israel and not coming here because they were bored or didn't succeed in there own country and looking for a small country to get easy access to the politics. Israel is not a playground of no one, although some people use it as one.
You can see what our problem with people who come here and right away becoming big general or ministers and month or two later after they done playing with our country they are leaving.
Aeroner is the voice of reason, Ender is the voice of racism.
Voted.
~ Geno Garon
Oh and why no one remember that I was president too 😕
Israel Should hart America... because America Harts Israel.
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Daniel Ender Day 1,031, 17:22 People are accusing me of multis, if I had multis, wouldn't I be banned?
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Sure.. because the admin are so full of awesomeness on catching multi-ers
Well written article.
Haha, Zaib, I will add you, my buddy 🙂
Ender don't use multies I'm voting all his articles with my organsitions and a lot of friends of mine does.
I agree with the most things stated here, I think that your statetments are intersteding and surely respectful, that was surely a presidental article and I'm taking my hat down for you.
But, Israel First don't need to change its nationalism, its legitimic to think Israel is for Israelies, its the first things that rings familiar to everyone and israelies PLAY THIS GAME because of nationality.
also, UIIP need to be aware for one thing, if they ain't connected with the American party, i'm ok with it.
but its corssing the line even if one UIP party member from the US come here and run for Knesset, this is a clearly PTO attempt.
I have respect to you Aeroner, but you disappointed me a few times at your term and I hope we can fix it.
Dean, I told you I understood the the nationalism, but if you want to move forward, abandoning it and moving forward...TOGETHER, with your American counterparts, will benefit us greatly.
Not worrying about power, or distribution. Just eIsrael.
That's all that matters, isn't it?
Dean used to be cool when he was President. Now he is defending Ender (who had 4 votes removed in the PP election and did not donate his Knesset election gold) and promoting an Israel only for RL Israelis. It is getting kind of pathetic.
* facepalms*
No fighting in the peace room. :/
@aeroner
it sound good but it attract a lot of pto'rs, medal grabbers and just some power hungry players.
I'm finishing fighting with CRoy and closing this thing.
I do support Americans, I do support all jews from all over the world and the only thing that bugs me its that some of them coming here to gain political power, thats it.
I also think that in Israel should be more Israelies, and thats a fact that you might agree with me aswell.
and I didn't know that Ender haven't donated his gold , please PM me with the facts about that and I'll talk with him asap.
Have a good day and lets stop this fight, and Gmar Hatima Tova
No fighting in the peace room x2
Vote from an American who moved to Slovakia and IRL is South Korean. I agree with the article completely, and if it's this hard to stop arguing, then really, how much has this article impacted you? But that's just what I'm saying you know?
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but its corssing the line even if one UIP party member from the US come here and run for Knesset, this is a clearly PTO attempt.
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makes no sense.
You are all a bunch of whiners... Seriously ? It is a game.
I am not trying to fight, but I think everyone needs to remember some history. Many former UIP members in fact helped build this country long ago (StygianSteel, Joshua Hoss, Jamarcus, Kazeal, Jewitt, and others). The UIIP is not a 'take over' nor is is an "American" party and I'm appalled that some people still think so. We share a forum space with the UIP but we operate completely independently. We have currently have only 10 Knesset members (out of 40), and we are dedicated to strengthening this nation. We have always been respectful of RL Israelis, even when that respect hasn't been extended back. I have personally invested hundreds of gold in this nation and have never asked for anything in return. I consider myself eIsraeli and nothing else.
I have bit my lip over the last month while many once respectful leaders have begun to beat the drum of tribalism, but I will no longer stay quiet. There is no American "PTO". We are all in this together, and the strength of this nation relies on us working together and supporting each other. We each have strengths. RL Israelis are the only ones that can fuel a real babyboom, while the UIIP can help encourage older experienced players to come to eIsrael and offer advice to the government or open businesses. We can co-exist and we can both build up eIsrael in different ways. Together we can accomplish great things. Hate will not get us anywhere. ❤❤❤❤
thumbs up
I like Aeroner, I love CRoy, And I loathe Ender(I hope he rots).
Totally voted.
seriously. as i said to croy aswell. uiip will make eisrael to go into civil war. now its under the hood. if things won't change and people should not realize this is not how you conduct politics. then by all means we shall fall into civil war. and in the end. people will leave the country with very sour taste. and the only victor will be our enemies. for even if some of the people who would realize how uiip is conducting its politics here is wrong. those people would do so when its too late.
"uiip will make eisrael to go into civil war."
Oddly enough, you're the only person who is saying this. There is no resentment from UIIP's side for the RL community. It sounds like the people that will start a civil war will be those who wish to extend RL BS into a game.
No robbie, I must agree with PK on this one.
you don't know how mad people at Israel, FXP is full of this and we are keep getting MSN msgs about "we want Israelies here", we trying to explain but to be honest, UIIP isn't helping us.
CRoy, you are the one who isn't quite actually, not us.
we are keeping on quite, we don't publish articles everyday.
but this might change, be aware of that.
you are trying to fight, and you don't do nothing to change your actions.
UIIP can't exist in eIsrael at this form, and even Aeroner will agree with me on that.
you need to change your party name immidietly, and make indipendenet forums, w/o have connections to the american UIP.
thats the first stage of getting closer to better Israel
and dude, those people you mentioned, like BuzzyTheCat built this country to give stage to Israelies to take the managment to thier hands, like it should be
Dean, how many more concessions will the other side need to make until you are satisfied?
not that much, and there is no "other side", there are I'm Israeli for 18 years so you need to understand that eIsrael is a "virtual" land that represent my own country and my own patriotism.
Just fit in, you are welcome here and I have more appriciate to israel lover then stuiped RL israelies, but you need to understand that there are few things that are just wrong..
Dean, BuzzyTheCat built this country for all ethnicity.
This is not what he intended.
"CRoy, you are the one who isn't quite actually, not us.
we are keeping on quite, we don't publish articles everyday.
but this might change, be aware of that."
I want people to write articles (: Articles help build a community in the game, on the site, instead of keeping everyone on outside forums. A vibrant media is good for eIsrael. It showcases our culture and activity when others come to visit or just browse the news around the world. I'd encourage everyone to publish more. That is why I have held contests to give out gold for newspapers and to give prizes for articles.
never saw this kind of efforts, well appriciated.
but still, fighting in article ain't leading us to nowhere
What is wrong with playing a game, Dean? Explain that one.
I think all the discussion lately is healthy really.
ofc PK comes in-a-trollin..
I personally don't understand this refusal to take in outsiders.
A couple things. Firstly, please stop saying everyone who comes here is interested in political power. Rheinlander and I both did exactly what we wanted in the US, and we didn't come here to try to get recognition. Secondly, if every outsider who comes and runs for congress is automatically a PTO, I think its worth asking what they want to PTO. An organized effort isn't going to come to Israel, and a small effort isn't going to work. So that argument is just invalid.
Finally, stubborn nationalism is making this country weaker. Just thought I'd point that out.