Everyone is Blind
Penguin4512
I'm sure we all know what the topic of this article is going to be about. In case you didn't hear, President JNArno has been impeached by the Shaolins.
Why? Because the Shaolins didn't win, so they believe impeaching a president is democracy.
(The below picture is for the lolz only, not to insult anybody, as that would ruin the point of this entire article)
So why did they impeach our president? Because that way Walther, their candidate, gets to be the president without the consent of the public.
I should known this was coming. But when it comes down to it, there was only one reason I didn't see it. I expected better of you, Shaolins.
I think you forget that you had a month of your own in February. You won fair and square (well, mostly), and Son of Stormkin became president. During that month of Shaolin rule, our GDP dropped, our population dropped, and our international standards dropped.
So have you finally shown your true colors, thrown away the mask and exposed yourselves as PTO'ers? No, you back up your impeachment with words of "democracy," and comparing JNArno to e
😜resident Eleriel.
In my heart, I believe the Shaolins to be a PTO group. Their actions and the unending streams of evidence convince me. But I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt. Calling the Shaolins a PTO group and using that to fuel our arguments is cheap and easy.
In summary, the Shaolins impeached our president for two possible reasons. They may be a PTO group plotting to overthrow eSwitzerland. Or maybe they simply believe that putting themselves in power is beneficial for eSwitzerland.
So where am I going with this?
I am going to try to present a fair and reasonable argument to the Shaolins. An argument that says "this is why you are wrong." One without any holes. I may not succeed, but I will certainly try my best.
Too long, Swiss And Shaolins have fought with each other on conflicting viewpoints. We believe in different ideals, different methods of doing things. And cooperation seems impossible, it may be impossible. But I do not believe that underhanded, backstabbing actions are going to help Switzerland in this fight. If we fight fire with fire, the whole country burns.
In the Shaolin's article, they claim that the Swiss have refused to negotiate with them. Not true. Perhaps Eleriel and Ilestis refused to (though I highly doubt it), but many Swiss have tried. I have tried. JNArno was trying, until the Shaolins went and impeached him.
Shaolins, we're all different people with different mindsets. The Resistance Movement is not an organization with set political goals or economical goals. Just because certain members do not cooperate with Shaolins, doesn't mean other's won't. And most importantly, and what you don't seem to understand, is that even if some of our members are pro-EDEN, quite a few are pro-neutrality.
If I were suddenly to be granted presidency, I would opt for Switzerland to remain neutral myself, even though I root for EDEN anyway. Why? Because unlike some people, I care more about this country then I do my own personal beliefs.
Shaolins, please understand me. If I could negotiate with you to save Switzerland, I would. If I could move out of this country and live in Sweden (gurgle) for the rest of my eLife to save this country, I would. If I could give up playing eRepublik to save this country, I would.
Skeptics might say "Words, but no action." But is it our fault that Shaolins block every action we make?
Shaolins, if you stop this impeachment, if you agree to give JNArno a month to save eSwitzerland, then I will accept you. I will welcome you into this community and I will view you as Swiss. For me, it is loyalty (yes Clifford, LOYALTY) to Switzerland that determines whether a person is Swiss or not.
Shaolins, you fight us with fire. People such as JNArno have given up their negotiations, and even now he plans Operation 503, making the rift between Shaolins and Swiss even larger.
Shaolins, Swiss, I hope you will both join me in Operation Penguin.
If you offer a hand of friendship, I will accept it. Operation Penguin is an operation that, I hope, does not conflict with operation 503 (nor 404).
It is simply an agreement that whatever actions we take, Swiss or Shaolin, we do it so that it directly benefits eSwitzerland.
Impeaching president after democratic election? NO!
Fighting in Graubunden on the wrong side? NO!
Posting funny pictures to cheer everyone up? YES!
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Comments
Feel free to troll. It's more than I'm expecting.
we have only finde more ru-bots and send tickets to admins.
vote.
What do you mean "has been impeached"? - the voting has not ended yet.
This only proves that the Shaolins are PTOers.
Trurl, when I say "has been impeached," I mean that someone proposed it. Sorry, bad wording on my part.
Anyway, it looks like it's going to pass.
Let's see if any Shaolins are actually willing to help Switzerland. I think not. :/
My greatest regret, is that I have but one account to give to this eNation
xD
go and get yourself an orga! 😉
but then don´t forget to vote and subscribe. cause this proves again: this guy is awsome!!
This is a reasonable suggestion. This government agency would really appreciate social peace.
It will not pass. Impeachments need 66% to pass. Look at minimum votes needed to defeat an impeachment at http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/impeachment-analysis-1242676/1/20" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/impe[..]/1/20
The Shaolin today have show their true colors. They have given up civil and just behavior to pursue their ends at any cost; all of eSwitzerland shall suffer for their transgressions.
Look here, mah Boy:
1) Every congress member is elected by citizens and he represents the will of his supporters. Ok with this?
2) Congress majority represents the will of more citizens than congress minority. Ok with this?
3) Only 66% majority can impeach president. Ok?
4) 66% is = consent of the public. Ok?
5) Democrasy - a: government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
6) So, why do You think this is not democracy?
1) true
2) wrong: look at the numbers, you got 98 votes, we got 98 too. the congress should be 20-20 but because you're way better organised than us, you got more congressmen... but you represent the same amount of people than us.
3) true
4) see 2)
5) we had free expressions days ago, if I had been elected 2 weeks ago, I would have understand (a bit more) but it has only been 3 days... the people of eSwitzerland expressed their choice: having me as president...
6) because it's not...
Penguin i really really want to troll you 🙁 but you have the moral high groud by a mile! well your a good person 🙂 likeing the pictures btw
Voted!
JNArno 2) say that for USA ))
Penguin: I give hand of friendship for everybody! 404! noone unsatisfied! \8/ \8/ \8/ \8/ \8/ \8/
2) wrong: look at the numbers, you got 98 votes, we got 98 too. the congress should be 20-20 but because you're way better organised than us, you got more congressmen... but you represent the same amount of people than us.
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I do not believe in creationism, so, according to the Darwin's theory, smartest, strongest, better organised - they have more rights.
Therefore impeachment is legitimate, not only legally, but also true from the standpoint of evolution.
If you have group of people out to serve their interest (Shaolin), that's called PTO.
Come up, don't be naive about this.
You people (yes, you, Shaolin) are the PTOers. You don't represent Swiss. You come from Russia, you come from speaking Russian, and you come from representing Russia. If individuals of Shaolin had DIFFERENT interest other than being Shaolin, then it would make sense that Swiss is a Democracy.
But it isn't. You all vote the same, you know your mandate from YOUR leaders, and you act based on what YOUR people say. That's NOT power of the people, that's called TYRANNY, that's called INVASION.
Omfg. I wanna say something but PTOers are usually trollers and don't give a crap about anything other than money and winning so.
Take it or leave it, hope you best Shaolin people of Swiss.
I do not believe in creationism, so, according to the Darwin's theory, smartest, strongest, better organised - they have more rights.
Therefore impeachment is legitimate, not only legally, but also true from the standpoint of evolution.
OHH
so you DO admit you are PTOers, you do admit you are taking over by forceful means against the Will of Neutral Citizens whose concern is for the betterment of the State. Yes, I do mean to say Shaolin does not represent Swiss because they are not Swiss People or have any LINK to Switzerland. I for one love my new eNation called eJapan. You probably don't, you have nothing to show for it other than PTO and organizing your RUSSIAN MEMBERS to take Switzerland for Phoenix Platter.
Well done.
Can you believe this guy? mildox?
Your arguments fail at every step.
Oh sh...trolls don't really argue other than lies and falsehood.
we are not PTOers
period
PROVE IT.
Oh.
Okay
Let's play this game. Let us suppose you are not PTOers.
Firstly, looking at Shaolin's activity in the past, yeah. You are PTOers. Remember North Korea?
PTOers move from one place to another. Your Shaolin members are in Russia, fighting Russian war. Therefore, they represent Russian interest--not Swiss. So its pretty obvious you are PTO.
Oh one more thing.
What do you mean by "we?"
You mean...Russian Shaolins? Oh, of course. When you say "We" you cannot mean to say "People of Swiss"
So this whole impeachment bs is "you Shaolin" pulling some nasty trick on "them (them < - Swiss People)"
You know, you said life is about "😉arwinism"
So You People against Swiss People.
In other words, Shaolin vs. Switzerland.
Yeah. You are definitely PTOers.
Oh crap. You just proved you are PToers again.
Nice job.
And my beautiful country crumbles to dust again. Thanks for ruining the game for us, shaolin.
lol.
according to presumption of innocence prove me that Shaolins are TOers, otherwise your words will be interpreted as an insult.
So, your org is in Serbia, your self obviously in japan, and in RL you are probably from US.
So You have no moral rights to speak about russians.
end of story.
mildox - glad to see your English has improved lately.
On a more serious note - really, there is no need to deny that you are PTOers and that you want to impose your will over eSwitzerland. No need to lie it is obvious.
JNarno, was putting in place a government with open positions for babies to get political, military and economics'experience and your aim was to screw it up with your impeachment. Why, to place Walther Rathenau, a fellow that has a great experience but seems to be far serving anything else than his personal interest and ambitions in Germany.
This is how, I see the situation.
You has yesterday said, that you're disappointed because I have nothing written in your newspaper. Therefore I do it now.
You write "we fight fire with fire" and publish eUSA under fire, why? If you will move to eUSA ok, but we don't follow you, therefore you can fight with yourself in the eUSA 😉
mildox said :
"I do not believe in creationism, so, according to the Darwin's theory, smartest, strongest, better organised - they have more rights.
Therefore impeachment is legitimate, not only legally, but also true from the standpoint of evolution."
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Darwinism in Democracy? Maybe in Russia the strongest has more power, but in Switzerland Democracy is one person = one vote !
Zillable, are you talking about that SLP congreesman? http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/profile/2513083" target="_blank">http://www.erepublik.com/en/citizen/prof[..]13083
lol.
according to presumption of innocence prove me that Shaolins are TOers, otherwise your words will be interpreted as an insult.
So, your org is in Serbia, your self obviously in japan, and in RL you are probably from US.
So You have no moral rights to speak about russians.
end of story. My location in RL is irrelevant.
In fact, I am not even from eUS. So please, base your assumptions according to facts like I am doing right now.
But let me counter your argument that Americans are not morally right to question Russian.
Firstly, we have our own PTOers called FoH in eJapan. Remember FoH? People you screwed over in North Korea back in the days? FoH invested heavily into North Korea, fighting against you and your group. They protected their interest, and continue to do so even now.
Yeah. They came to eJapan and guess what they do? Protect eJapan, Serve eJapanese Interest, Participate in Public Forum and Actively Work to Defend our Nation. You know the difference between you Shaolins and American FoH? FoH Works for eJapan and you don't because you move around with your PTO group, taking down nation to nation until Russians completely take over like in North Korea.
Hey, Prove me wrong but, Americans aren't bad here in eJapan. We have 50% of people from other place than America and we work pretty well. FoH earned my respect. But my question is... have you earned respect from Swiss? Have you done anything other than Impeachment, Forced Takeover? Have you even discussed Impeachment with People of Swiss before you did it? I guess not.
Hey, FoH don't steal money from our treasury btw. They share critical offices with People of other parties.
Plus, They faced criticism of neutral citizens like you did but they accepted that and moved on, becoming one of the most popular party in this eJapan.
Don't ask me what RESPECT means in case you don't know.
Elixer you are tooo subective. I can change "FoH" to "Shao" and 98% will be correct from MY position. And do not talk about what you have no much information.
"Calling the Shaolins a PTO group and using that to fuel our arguments is cheap and easy."
What else shall a PTO group be called?
I'm saying I want to be able to argue with them without having to call them a PTO group. Which actually isn't so hard.
@ mildox:
"I do not believe in creationism, so, according to the Darwin's theory, smartest, strongest, better organised - they have more rights."
I think that, according to (applications of the principles in) the Russian translation of "the Darwin's theory" you read, whoever did that translation from English to Russian should probably be shot and removed from the gene pool. Along with all their children/descendants, just to be sure.
just commenting on your very very horrible grasp of Darwin's theory and it's applications, there. It's far worse even than I've ever heard from English-speakers or, in fact, from anyone- which is REALLY, REALLY, REALLY saying something)
Anyway, why can't the Shaolin stop wasting our time with this ludicrous propaganda? We know they're PTOers, there are a zillion things everyone has listed yet they just keep on trolling. What's the point?
Icewood, stop being a troll.
Well, you should say I am OBJECTIVE, not subjective, unless you want to describe me as a fair, good man with some sense of intelligence. But no. I am "objective" according to you, not subjective.
Being subjective means I am not out to hurt you and have open mind without "objective."
But I am subjective anyhow. I am open minded. Its just Shaolin is nation destroyer. Look at North Korea. Come on. FoH don't destroy nations, they get DESTROYED by you Shaolins. So don't go and tell me FoH and Shaolins are the same because they aren't and i know that for a fact.
FACT > MYTH & TROLL
Sometimes, somethings remember me to the second worldwar where the others were the bads, but in eSwitzerland this are you Shaolins!
What my ancestors said, "Smrt fasizmu, sloboda narodu", this is what I wish everyone who occupate other countrys! I'm not pro EDEN, and I will never be, but I won't support you because you don't respect the opinion of eSwiss-People what you make a occupator.
"I'm saying I want to be able to argue with them without having to call them a PTO group. Which actually isn't so hard."
And why on Earth would you like to argue with a PTO group? Convince me, tell me all the great results that came out of being nice and reasonable with them. Can't you understand yet that the Shaolins are not an opposition but an enemy?
If someone runs toward you with a raised baseball bat, with and angry grin on his face, do you say: "well, let's not call him an 'attacker', 'cause that might hurt his feelings, focus on working out a non-violent solution that would both make us happy"?
Yes, Hold a anti-war protest signs up while they beat your brains out 😃
I suggest you pull out your old winchester and...
BOOM! BOOM!