eIndia's Counter Offer to eIran
Ind1anMartyr
Greetings to all,
eIndia declared war against eIran a few days ago. this was brought on and orchestrated by MAFIA and their repeated attempts to PTO our elections, PP, President and congress. Despite this, we continued talks with the most courteous and amicable President of eIran, NEC.
The last straw however came due to 2 reasons :
1. MAFIA began the region RWs on their own and broke down the talks completely.
2. MAFIA continued with their hate, trolling, spam amd PTO campaign unabated.
This finally led us to declare war against eIran as we see no chance of surviving another PTO attempt and have had it as far as being bullied is concerned.
Our citizens decided that the best way was to stand up for what is ours and risk losing everything if the case may be.
This has had its unexpected positives with a buzz around the nation and a unity never seen before and we have already seen new citizens trickling in and joining up and participating eagerly. We have also had a couple of hard fought successes which have helped keep the momentum.
Today, the President of eIran - Ashi_BombA gave us an offer that says Iran will give us West bengal and will prevent MAFIA from PTOing us for which we have to sign peace treaty.
We have had a marathon meeting after which the majority vote has decided that we began this war to secure all our own regions back and we should only close the war once we have secured them. Also, we have no faith in MAFIA ceasing their operation as they have shown repeatedly their disdain for us as a nation and they may perhaps hibernate but never cease.
We have come up with a counter offer to Iran wherein we stick to our original goals and will sign peace only on the following terms :
1. All MAFIA activity ceases for good.
2. Our final region under Iranian control - Jharkhand is to be returned to us.
If this offer is acceptable to Iran, we would be more than amenable to discus peace and close out the war.
If it is not, we can understand...Jharkhand may be precious to Iran but it is our natural region and our fight is a fight for justice, for our own land, not imperiastic in nature. We want what was ours.
We have to thank MAFIA for giving strength to a sleeping tiger that had to take days of being bullied just because we did not have the gumption to speak out. We are however, always in favour of peace and if Iran recognises our right and wishes to strengthen ties in the future, we can settle this without need for any more fighting.
Once again, thank you MAFIA, we blame you for what has happened as it made us realise that losing our country was not such a bad thing after all...too bad you have failed in all your attempts and made us stronger.
To the people of Iran, I am sure you would have done the same in our place and I urge you to look at it from our point of view as well and show good faith to work towards a more positive future.
thank you...we await your reply before MAFIA compel us to have to take whatever decision is needed to make sure they fail again. Hopefully 24 hours should be a reasonable time span.
Regards,
Ashwamedh
MoEA - eIndia.
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Mav
as i understand eRep is new world,new history.then can any one claim to rightful owner,home land,...?
I think you are omitting some important points that render the rest of your article uninteresting.
While Mafia did start RW, so did Seal Team 6 and AHF. Those where done with eIndians involved. So no, you did not come to the negotiations with good intentions. Yes we know what Mafia, but that has nothing to do that you started RWs without negotiations.
We have lost faith in your intentions, so I really doubt that your "counter" proposal is really a proposal at all.
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I have 8 mths negotiations filed in my inbox, If Iran wish to say we havent negotiated I can easily disprove this, the fact remains we tried everything and got nothing back, stay strong India we will prevail victorious.
"So no, you did not come to the negotiations with good intentions"
And you make fun of Iranians English comprehension.
@gorgepir
Well most of Iranis start shouting about our mothers and fathers. I think more than english comprehension you should worry about those comments. And we know Iran is not english speaking country but atleast they can avoid using comments which can hurt somebody's sentiments. This is a Game. Treat it as a game. If you will give respect you will get respect.
Anyway, I count this as a Victory for India
@dominc
As did many eIndians, making fun of Iranians and calling us terrorists, dogs, mustache men and ...
It goes both ways. I think all parties who use such language are just childs, from Balash to Brood.
Your sentiment is completely true. If you want respect, you should give respect.
However, I think both of you failed to see what I was saying. We dont trust you to be honest in negotiations, because at the same time as negotiations were ongoing, you were busy asking the Seal Team to fight for you or making RW yourselves (AHF). So it is a trust issue. I dont think you are honest in your proposals, you do not want peace and will in the future fight for EDEN and the eUS because of the debt you have to them. That was my point, I think you both missed it. So I doubt there is any peace between us. You had a chance to prove it.
@grogepir
As David Said
I have 8 mths negotiations filed in my inbox, If Iran wish to say we havent negotiated I can easily disprove this, the fact remains we tried everything and got nothing back.
I think he is trust worthy guy. If he is saying it openly that he can prove i think he got enough evidence over there. And world knows that we published so many articles in your media giving you offers to return our regions peacefully. But every time most of people started of trolling and making negative comments. However, now if we are fighting for what is ours we are not doing anything wrong.
And you choose to ignore David's comment about the 8 months spent in negotiations? What about the offers with hospitals that were made PRIOR to the RW's? On one hand you refer to good-will and scope of peace, and on the other you hold original regions of ours; isn't that a bit contradictory?
It was AFTER 8 months of failed negotiations, AFTER being insulted by your then MoFA, Balash, that we chose the option of RW's to free our original regions, after which we were threatened of being wiped off the map... an the vicious cycle of insults and disrespect followed.
Can you show me ONE article/comment where Iran was insulted, prior to that?
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. You do not seem to understand what I am saying. I really dont care what happened the past 8 months, only the past month where you have consistently RW instead of actually talked. Both in NEC time and before that there were negotiations to return the regions. I did not say that you havent negotiated, I said your intentions were not genuine. You only wanted your regions back, we wanted to be friends. To be a friend does not mean you have to listen 100% to what one side says, it means you compromise.
You are free to try to get the back with any means necessary, even if it means you become indebted to the eUS. But that also means that we dont have to be cooperative. You can take the regions back, by spending the price in gold. You could have easily gotten them back much cheaper by not starting so many RWs. Strategically it makes perfect sense for us to make you (and your allies) pay the maximum price to get the regions back, declaring war, starting I think around 20 wars, tanking, .... I guess we were hoping that it could be done peacefully and friendly likes neighbors should, that is worth more than any strategy.
Every time you started a RW, you sent back an agreement a few weeks. You have started many RWs. Add those up and becomes months.
@maverick
Yes I have a ticket for an article calling iranians to lick their bowls and with a picture of a dog licking a bowl. It was removed.
Also, you are now only talking about the recent RWs. You have had many RWs over the past months, even before those negotiations. If I remember correctly, you returned northern India before those negotiations. I may be mistaken, but that is how I remember it.
and one more thing, while I understand your contempt for us to hold your original regions, we were under the impression that this is the new world. As Bishnu pointed out, that has nothing to do with being peaceful, as we took them during the time Romania was dominating.
We did not have a war with you, did not declare, and had no desire to fight with you. If we had, we would have declared a long time ago before you signed any MPPs.
I dont think they would give up Jharkhand. I would take West Bengal and declare peace. It would be a major victory for India
Firstly, friends wouldn't hold another's regions indefinitely. That too regions that are useless in terms of resources, have hardly any population. Moreover, by negotiations you mean asking us to Pay for the very same regions. In spite of that we had offered Q5 hospitals (much prior to the RW's).
The North India RW took place after the 2nd time the offer was placed, not the previous times.
If Iran's intentions Were genuine, wouldn't you have returned the regions much before?
Yes, I agree Rl and erep are different, but then doesn't the eRepublik map say these are original eIndian regions? I wonder what you would do if original eIranian regions were under control by another nation, asking for payment in return for them, and then insulting by not turning up for meetings, refusing to liste to offers, and threatening to wipe us off the map.
Finally, as I said, I deeply regret the kind of low grade articles that followed after the conflicts started off. I know the article you refer to, and I myself showed disdain at the quality and intent behind those articles. However you missed My point where I asked for ONE article BEFORE the India-Iran conflict started.
And personally I admire your decision. I for one would not have made such a decision. You can not win against Iran in a 1-1 battle, so that means that you are accepting that you will be signing MPPs for many months to come, because as soon as an MPP runs out you have to be worried of an Iranian attack on all your regions. Good luck with spending all that gold.
Anyways, did not mean to hijack your article. Good luck.
Too bad we cant be good neighbors anymore.
That's fine gorgepir, I appreciate a sane conversation. At least one can debate based on logic, even if we agree to disagree. Heh
If we remove India-Iran border, where does this option of MPP's come into play? 🙂
That article was posted early October. I consider that before the conflicts started. You might mean before 8 months, but I was not in the game then to really be able to say anything.
We can always go through Pakistan 😃. It is not like we are 10 countries apart.
😁 XD
So if we do reclaim our regions, stave off a PTO threat, and remove our borders with Iran, then the very same eIran would choose to come after eIndia, 'just to prove a point'? heh Anyways let's see what happens in days to come.
I sure hope we can actually turn around the situation to benefit both nations. I for one have always stood for good relations with eIran.
Regarding the article, I d believe it came out after the conflicts (RW's and all started) though I can't honestly remember the exact timing. But if it is the case as you said, I have made my personal stance clear about it. I've always detested trolling, and still do, whoever the side it is.
Well, you have proved that we are not friends. And if we are not friends, that kinda makes us enemies. I mean your president called yesterday FU Iran day. So......
As you say we will see.
And this time I am out. I have to read many subscribed newspapers still!
Yeay you're right, we could go on and on, and continue calling the other one out. Thanks anyways for the time.
Regards
Mav
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Maverick, Domnic and the rest of us, ignore this guy's comment. First thing being not logical at all, second thing, does he represent his country in any means? If no, then consider it useless. Let someone responsible post and we will have them answered. Also, we have been making negotiations for more than 6 months. They kept saying they will wipe us out, bla bla bla. So now, I dont think they need some negotiation like that. Lets see it from our side, are we a country to be scared of another countries threatening words? I d say we disapprove of this negotiation.
"It goes both ways. I think all parties who use such language are just childs, from Balash to Brood."
Thanks mate!
Personally, I don't agree with giving Iran this offer. But guess that's just me.
I am with you Brood. We should disapprove this negotation.
you are dead
viva mafia
LOL LOL @ rome...yes, MAIA did kill us...argghhh.... my heart...ohhh...I am dying of a heart attack thanks to the epic PP PTO fail.
Killing me softly with your mirth - nice strategy.
as that guy said, in the last month we haven't actually sat down and spoken..but spoken to whom..balash? or Mafia? because i guess the only people who are involved more in eIndia is the Mafia community than the eIranian government..i don't think for once did Iran try to tell their guys to stop PTO'ing us..did you? i don't think so..when we decided to sign MPP's with other nations, then did Iran contact us? no, becoz people were busy saying india is small it needs help, etc etc.
you can't talk to a wall..you need active co-operation from both sides..when we were begging you for negotiations what did we get..a PTO..so now you think we should still wait for more talks or counter the PTO?
i believe what we are doing is right..and we can't trust any-one again..may it be Mafia or Iran..but again its my personal view and not the whole country's
Thnx
Rob
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all of us know what happened.... why debate again... simple solution... we get our regions back or we take our regions back.... and quite obviously second is happening...because the first failed(and as most; but not all iranians would say indians chose it that way)... i wonder
dont take any part of our country back frm then as a donation but take it by fighting and also concer their some parts ,its necessayr 2 teach them a lession ,we shoul fihgt fight fight enouhg of talks
Balash banned
he is Leader Of India
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VOTE UP PLZ
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Lol Balash banned yes.
Leader of India?? You mean Indian Mafia multis? Lol
Also navin, and others I appreciate gorgepir's intentions to discuss. We might not agree, but doesn't mean we need to argue always.
you see them trolling, you see them being ignorant 😃
JAI HIND and lets finnish the job 🙂
voted and very glad to see India awakened!
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