We need better policies.
stancel
Apparently, Austria is poor. Or rather, the powers that be refuse to recognize the pile of gold accumulating in the country's bank and reserve.
Right now the Austrian Central Bank has 280 gold and 11000 ATS.
We have enough gold to sign an MPP and get a training war for our citizens. Yet this is not pursued. A few weeks ago, a Peacekeepers org took 200 of our gold.
Supposedly, the rather simple exercise of spending 250 gold for an MPP and a training war along with it is lost on those with the power to spend it (at least not in smart ways).
So, if you complain that we do not have enough money (and we most certainly do, just not enough to impress some), then you must accept higher taxes. Which I am proposing today.
Right now the taxes for food are:
Income tax: 5%
Import tax: 50%
VAT: 5%
They would be raised to:
Income tax: 15%
Import tax: 99%
VAT: 10%
If anyone disagrees, they are welcome to propose different taxes. However, what must happen is discussion and debate, not trolling. Do Austrians think that Congress should just sit around, not doing anything? No, we need to discuss ways to better our country.
It is either this: Sign an MPP. Or raise taxes. Or continue to face growing opposition over the physical stagnation of this nation.
- Stancel
Congress Member & Party President of the Socialist Party
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For once I almost agree with you (on one point). If we want a training war we must have dramatically higher taxes. The 200 gold you speak of was the cost of us repelling the Hungarian invasion and retaining Burgenland. Based on that fact you should be able to see that 280 gold in reserves will not go far in the event we are attacked again. This administration has chosen to put our national security first and I believe that is where it belongs. If you would prefer we drain the treasury for a training war, then be assured that a real war would be immediately following and Austria would cease to exist.
I think the members of government are competent and they have spoke about a training war in the future. I don't think demanding things is going to help anyone 🙂.
I don't mean to sound patronising.
I agree in principle that a national debate about our financial situation is something that would be of benefit to the nation. We all knew that the increased cost of MPP's would prove burdensome to the small nations of the eWorld. The question is what we should do to solve that problem without bankrupting ourselves or causing massive inflation of the ATS. I think that spending all of our gold on training wars would not be the most ideal solution to our problem because it would leave us extremely vulnerable to attack (As rjeddings stated above). Although I myself do not have a proposal about how best to solve our financial woes, I would be fully supportive of being part of a discussion that could lead to positive solutions. In short, I agree that we have a problem and I agree that congress has a duty to try and come up with a solution to it.
Shit needs to be done on the market, that's the first place to start if we want to truly make money. The economy NEEDS to be nationalized, may I suggest state owned companies on several resources such as wood and iron? If you got to the market here and look on to other nations we are being jacked up. Shit needs to be done I am not economic genius but we have to get out all these foreign companies by imposing harsh taxes, I think the government can designate tax breaks to domestic companies to ensure they do not go under.
That higher taxes would finance a training war is a fallacy. Tax earnings are in ATS and we can only turn so much of them into gold on our very slow-moving mm.
Yeah, right now we have 250 gold. What you seem to ignore is, that our monthly gain struggles to hit the 100 gold mark. We can't just spend it all now and declare bankrupcy next month.
This discussion has been going on for a month now since the introduction of the new expensive mpps. I contrast to Alfred I highly doubt that we can cure the econony (we don't have either of the two key factors to success: rare raw materials and big population). But I wholeheartedly agree that something has to be DONE. At least some kind of life sign, that the government cares and trys to find optimal policies.
In this month I've written a lot about the importance of training wars and the possiblities of financing them (with at least 3 completely seperate propositions). I have yet to hear an official decision or even discussion. Do we even strive to take part in wargames? What is the official stance on financing, well, everything or anything? Will we really continue to politely ask for congress tax donations and work the mm with micro sums as our economic masterplan? I feel that the visions are lacking in the financial department.
(we don't have either of the two key factors to success: rare raw materials and big population)
That is why we open a company up overshores like other governments in resource regions...
Alfred to create a state company in raw materials is silly becuase we do not have any high raw materials to specialize in.
It's a pitty, the goverment should low taxes in raw materials and increase taxes in manufacture products
Haha, Safiros you are are not getting what I mean 😛
I mean we should create a company in lets say Greece which has a high iron, or a high wood region in USA and buy licenses here and sell solely to here for international market prices/
An iron comp overseas would make a lot sense to me.
We clearly can't afford training wars at this moment. However, that's not bad for generating food consumption. It's a good time to raise taxes on food, as far as that goes.
Alfred, if you keep taking Jagdkommando overseas to gain xp, then that takes some of the pressure off of not fighting in training wars. But we do need to get them back, when we can afford them, and they have to budgeted for, and the money needs to be found.
However, the solution to that is not by taxing ATS, or controlling the domestic economy. The only way to do that is by getting Gold. The best solution on the table for that is via foreign raw comps.
Additionally, what I haven't heard discussed is getting Iron into the new weapons comp. Well, that's ultimately going to cost Gold, unless you have a steady income of the Greek currency, or Spanish or whatever. Probably it means spending Gold to buy the Iron to make those weapons. An Iron comp only makes sense to stop the flow of Gold out of the treasury. Additional Iron can be sold on the market and turned into Gold to be returned to the treasury. But profits from that won't materialize too quickly - nor will it really pay for the training wars - it'll simply be an additional monthly income for the state. And more work for whoever's gotta manage it.
I'll just add something.
We don't necessarily need a training war. But the citizens of Austria need active wars. Why not sign an MPP with a strong, powerful country that is likely to be involved in wars?
State run companies will result in a drain on the treasury, not an increase. ATS can be converted to gold much faster if need be, but it will require devaluing the currency. At this time we have decided to slowly convert ATS to gold at 50-55 ATS/Gold rather than do it rapidly at 70-80 ATS/Gold. It appears in the president's recent article that he would favor a slight devaluation, which would start to speed up the process, but overall our goal is stability.
Also, if we go without training wars for a while, it would really help the housing market, and the higher quality food market. Just a thought.
@Stoneman
"Alfred, if you keep taking Jagdkommando overseas to gain xp, then that takes some of the pressure off of not fighting in training wars. But we do need to get them back, when we can afford them, and they have to budgeted for, and the money needs to be found."
We have never been overseas yet officially or even unofficially 😉
Wars almost always help the economy in eRepublik because then are people more willing to bye more items such as guns and gifts and it will do the economy to roll on. But I believe that the first thing we have to do is more state owned companies on the market because then more money will go back to the state rather in rich people’s money bag andwe also need higher taxes.
I agree with Alfre😛 Nationalizing a part of the economy would sure help in increasing the stability of our economy
Higher taxes on food is a good start, though we might be pushing it too high to fast. Can't complain though, It can't make our economy any worse. Thus, I am with you on the raise.