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Given that a good majority of E/B nations got taken over/down to two regions/PTO'ed....

I'd say there's a great difference.

Agreed. There was actually a proposal to start war games between PEACE and EDEN (forgive me whoevers idea this was I've already forgotten) just for fun and training and to even make them to where there were objectives just like real wars and such but after each round of battles the conquered territories are RWed back to the original country. This seems like the perfect solution to all those people who think wars are necessary to keeping this game fun while still staying away from all the racism and hate mongering that real world wars usually start. I wish people would actually give this a try because the idea had amazing potential to revolutionize the eWorld.

I had more fun while the eUS was down to one state then I have had in the rest of the year I have played this game put together.

Yep, but without wars, ecenomy slowly die...

Why would we end the war? Its good for the game. New players stay longer.

As Alex said, start training wars instead.

Yeah, what a boring game this would be w/o the super alliances...

Who wants to play a game where all you do is click train, work, fight every day? Bring on the war!

And you said nothing good has come from this war. Canada is talking about all these new companys PEACE started there. USA got a baby boom. We found out who our true friends were. I started a little before every state in eUSA was taken except Florida. It helped me learn he game..

Why would you want to bore people who play this "GAME"???

War = leveling up.
War = excellent economy, opportunity for fortunes to be made and lost.

Maybe PEACE is tired of the war because it lost it's empire because of it, but E/B nations have just reached the point they were at prior to Nova Scotia...

We are feeling a confident and energized as PEACE is feeling defeat right now.

And WSR ain't eIndo any more.
North Caucasus is gone..
Urals...

How long for Hello Kitty?

Good times they are...

Without wars, why play? Its like playing golf. Yeah you can beat your low score, but its better when you're beating someone else.

The game would suck ass without war.

PEACE started this war and EDEN/Brolliance will finish it.

eRep revolves around war, without it its too boring to play.

Sorry, but the UK majorly betrayed us by letting PEACE attack us, and in a game revenge is enough to justify a war, and wars are fun, and in the media there is some chest-beating and insults but nothing hateful or racist.

War isn't what's fun. The social opportunities is, the politics is, the arguments is, the company owning is, the economies is.
War is just the sick evil brother of what is truly fun.
War is just clicking on buttons. The other parts of the game is not.
The other parts of the game is what matter.

One of the main features of this game is war and you train every day to prepare for that. it's like telling monopoly players not to take rent from other players but just roll the dice and get all the money from GO and chance cards...it's part of the game to be competitive...

With out Training Wars the game slows down but (and do read this, I was in the eUS military before becoming an eSingaporean) revenge wars will just lead to more eUS pain.

Bare with me for a moment. Lets say the eUSA does attack Russia... What then? All of PEACE GC will look at the eUSA and say "Great, those idiots are at it again! INVADE! INVADE! INVADE! Exterminate! Exterminate! EXTERMINATE! (the last 3 words are in dalek voice)"

What will happen? E/B will be forced into making a choice. Do they continue to attempt a push into Russia or do they start defending when eUK, eFrance, ePortugal and eMexico open up fronts on the eUS (And dont say Mexico wont, their NAP is as worthless as the penalty that would be paid in full with captured gold).

If the eUS decides to launch an attack at the eUK, it will result in the same, only the eRussians would have an open door to walk through along with their masters, the Hungarians.


Honestly, after talking to some contacts I still have left in the eMilitary, if the eUSA really does press an attack, it will find itself dominated again. Its economy in shambles. It will have to RW itself back into being and this time it wont have all the gold it had previously. In short, it will be conquered and enslaved for a rather long period of time. It will have meant that everyone's sacrifices were for naught and that the eUSA really did NOT learn the lession in WW3 that it claims it learned.


Wargames are a Good thing for everyone. Losing the eUSA again out of arrogance and a desire for "revenge" is another thing entirely.

this war has mad me more active, curse you war!

Virtual wars are not evil, at least 80 - 90% of my country enjoyed the war so they are entertaining, the rest of the game is fun also, a training war would be fun but it wouldn't be as dramatic as actual war is.

Wait for consequences of 100 Gold MPPs to take effect.

The Age of Super Alliance is over...

peace at home, peace in the world

I can see why this war doesn't suit well with you. Indeed, people going overboard with the hate and racism is a terrible thing. But the game is war based. It keeps the economies going and keeps people interested.

Now shut up, grab a Q1 and let's go kick some British ass! Hoo-ah!

Relorian we would of went for Colombia if we didnt learn anything.

**whew** a ton of dissenting comments, at least twice as many as votes. kinda telling.
03.10.2009 - Day 683 of the New World ... also telling.
sorry, kid, it's a resource management game in which personal wealth and social networking are driven by warring.

Wait why are you having the non-American's say tame stuff and having the American's say the blatantly offensive stuff?!

There are other ways... We are too indulged in our current ordeals that we forget to look beyond. May we all realize that there are more to this game than war and violence. May love and peace be with you all.

There is no violence... Its the internet.

My friend, it's a game... Anything is possible.

Dude the game is about war besides it makes the game more fun.

this game has no racism or religious hate, and we wage war its perfect 🙂

Reification is incorrect, my friend. However, considering that we are all human beings, we cannot avoid a persistence of our biased minds. Poor poor us.

This game, sadly reflects upon the populous of our world. It is not us who should be pitied, it should be our world. Poor poor earth.

eUS isn't going to attack original region PEACE countries, we're going to RW the territories they stole back to the owners.

Kyle James are you really going to tell me that exercising creative writing skills doesn't involve thinking but clicking the fight button 5 times in a row and then clicking the heal button does? Seriously??

It's so funny that most of you think that one extra set of buttons to click is what makes this game fun. It shows just how much real life has ingrained the "glory" of war in your minds. Perhaps you missed my comment. There are ways to make wars without everyone hating each other and having these big smear campaigns which turn into racism and real enmity. War is a part of the game yeah. War does boost economies yes. Something more to do in this game is fun yes and it does boost activity and organization to have a cause but we can have causes that are for fun and that are created with just fun in mind and leaving the hatefully ignorant racism behind. Just think about that.

The eUnited States, even with ill-intentions and masked impetus, is doing good tasks, thus I support them. But, what I truly support is the creation of new nations. I have long wondered why we are stuck with the same nations, same nationalities? Why not create Candy Wonderland in the middle of Europe? Or Animesia in Asia? Hmmm...

allies forever

"Losing the eUSA again out of arrogance and a desire for "revenge" is another thing entirely."

Dude, we did not lose the eUSA. We got backed into a corner and came out kicking ass, liberated all North American regions, and a good number of other oppressed regions as well.

Why would you assume anything was about our 'arrogance'? You were e-born Oct 3rd. You speak as though you were around well before that.

>Brolliance

Entertainment can be anything, my dear friend. You may say that this is your alter ego, but you are wrong, this is you. What is part of you is you. What you pretend to be is you. What you want to be is you. My friends, look... Our attitudes in this game reflects our attitudes in real life. What is more interesting that having peace rallies through ravaging wars? Wars will not stop and the call to stop them will not stop either. This is a natural process of a game, and of life. It is very interesting... 🙂

All those in favor of war in this game = shitloads of hands shoot up.

All those opposed = this guy and a couple of others maybe. And I do mean "maybe" - he works at a penguin bowling weapons factory for crying out loud.

No hate, no racism, just a love of one's country, a sense that having friends and allies means something and that injustice is not to be tolerated.

Not voted. Not Subscribed.

And with no disrespect to citizens of any other eNations, I sign off as always,

Go eUSA!

For those that think war is pointless, I would guess that it wasn't pointless when the eUSA was getting hammered. You know what I smell in the air? Fear, is what I smell. Now that the eUSA has rebounded and has a ton of young potential that most other countries cannot match, everybody wants the eUSA to become nice guys. Funny how that works.

Under the current game modules eRepublik will lose players quickly without war. The economic system is broken. It only exists in most countries to supply weapons, food, and housing to the fighters. Without wars the production requirements would drop heavily and the economies would crash. Let's face the facts. Until the developers add something to game to do besides have wars, they will not stop.

I can understand the temptation to settle into a nice happy world with only training wars, but then what is the point of playing eRepublik? The only real motivation to play is to win the wars. Training wars will be boring because there isn't anything at stake. it is all just pointless button clicking to move some number on the screen. There is no challenge and no consequences. It is the ultimate namby pamby gaming experience. The only word to describe it is...

BORING!!11ONE!!!

BTW, be sure to click back to ChewChewShoe's previous post, in which the author announces the results of his "Q1 House raffle".

2nd prize included a Q5 weapon. Some pacifist this arms-dealer is.

Puh-leeeeez.

Go eUSA!

lets not get too involved after all this is a game i may say things in the game like its pay back time for those PEACE basters but come on in RL half of peace is probably American and i have nothing against anyone who plays this game so lighten up dude its all in fun

"All it does is whip up a nationalistic fervor that no political speech can."

Nationalism is nothing but blind ignorance and allowing yourself to be manipulated by those in power over you.

George Bernard Shaw:
"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all others because you were born in it."

Just one more point to make here. The idea that warring in a game creates hate is utterly ludicrous. Some of my best gaming friends were people that I fought the the most bitterly against before we got to know each other. Facing an opponent in a game that can give you a good challenge is not hatred, it is competition. Nobody is hating.

I am a third generation American, but 13 out of 14 relatives up through my great-grandparents were Hungarian. One was Belgian. Amazingly, my last name is inherited from the Belgian great-grandfather. But my blood is still almost purely Hungarian. Does that make me hate them because of a war in an online computer game? Hardly!

Show me a person that succumbs to hatred and racism in a video game and I will show you somebody that cannot keep a proper perspective on life. They are giving too much creedence to the virtual world and not enough consideration for real life. But the problem is not the game, or how it is played. The problem is a lack of proper guidance and parenting for the person that has these issues. They have not learned to keep their priorities straight. Maybe it is better that they learn these lessons in a video game where there is no real harm done rather than learning them where people are involved in real life.

Lamna, my friend, you just signed back in. How interesting.

Alex Lorre,

Here is another quote for you...

"My country, right or wrong" is a thing no patriot would ever think of saying except in a desperate case. It is like saying "My mother, drunk or sober."
G.K. Chesterton

This is more true of the American experience with patriotism above all. When the United States defeated Germany and Japan in World War II, what did we do? We spent American money to rebuild them and turn them into two of the greatest economic powers on earth is what we did. We did not keep their land. We spread a way of life. We spread the seeds of freedom and self-determination. I think it was summed up best in this quote...

"A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle and patriotism is loyalty to that principle."
George William Curtis

So I challenge your simplistic and inarticulate idea of patriotism because it is not how I understand it. I will fight against the government of America in real life if it becomes the oppressor. But equating what happens in a video game to real life principles is simply not realistic. It is an excuse for players to manipulate the conditions of the game to meet their own desires and nothing more.

You wasted so much Gold to write THIS?? Hahaha.