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Let's kill spaniards again!

Oinyo, you're naive if you think those are the only two options, and I will protect Canada at all costs.

There really are only 2 options... Support or do not support...
Oh god dont try any under handed crap please.. It will blow up in our faces..
You have zero clue on how far eSpains ears span and who they have in their pocket....

Just let this one go and dont gamble with our freedom please.

I have no intention of going up against Spain. The NAP is our best option at the moment.

Strength and Honour

DMV you must understand that we're all a bit worried since we got our land back recently,and actions like this could jeopardize all the progress we made towards liberating. As our CP you have our trust, but one wrong move can put everything back on boil...

I wonder what the big deal is? Spain goes after the US. If I remember the treaty correctly with Spain, we are only limited to not RW our provinces back to us. Using them as a training war is fine too.

We are free to help out the US and kill Spaniards if we want to. If I got the understanding of the treaty correctly. Did I miss something?

(canadian on US ATO)

The treaty is a month by month that eSpain can choose not to renew at any point.

To fight them and go against them would simply have them pull back and not renew.. Then Knop lost all his CAD he paid for us and we would go right back into being occupied.

It is NOT a good idea to keep poking the giant on top of us.. We have made a choice and we need to be men enough (and woman) to deal with it with honor and dignity. We will rebuild and grow until we are at a stage when we can continue talks with eSpain.

until then.. Stop giving them reasons to pull out of the deal they were nice enough to give us and occupy us for another year

It wasnt just them being nice. Go read their forums. They were concerned well if they do this for too long, a real life hatred could ensue, someday we could be allies, we are a pain in the ass and I think just general fair play. I seem to remember asking the same questions to klop in an article and the spanish were fine with us fighting them/or their allies?

Otherwise we would have to sit out most of any war in the game LOL.

Canadians are a pain in the ass

lol that we are Rylde 😉

The treaty is not month to month, it is in place until we can negotiate/retrieve our other regions back

This is alarming news, but there is only one option. We should not fight against Spain.

Our NAP has no restrictions on who we fight for.

PUSSY

2 - Neither eSpain nor eCanada will fight on the resistance side in any RW on those four regions. eCanada will ask its allies not to fight for the resistance side.

If the same people are running Spain as the ones we talked to when were where occupied, they would absolutely consider our new found CoT status as an excuse to re-wipe Canada. Bad call signing us so fast. May have just destroyed all efforts that got us unwiped.

Strength and Honour. o7

They clearly told us we could do what ever we wanted as far a foreign affairs and MPP when we asked them. The act of joining an alliance does not break the NAP. Neither does not directly fighting them. A good chunk of our population did not even want the NAP and now you want us to just walk on egg shells for the rest of our eLives. Our goal all along has been to get all our regions back. The NAP was just a stepping stone towards that goal. It is a strategy game and we have played it well.

Perhaps we should wait on talking about fighting eSpain and getting back land until we can actually back it up with you know.. Anything.. lol

Being cocky is what got us into a 8 month occupation in the first place... If we are not careful it will be the reason we get wiped again.

No one is saying be safe forever.. but we are no where near even the str we need to start making claims of a full eCan

And it's a darn good thing that Spain can be so completely trusted not to break their agreement...

We can only control what we do and not break it ourselves. If this had happened last month everyone of us would be jumping for joy. You yourself were preaching that this very event could not happen and was one of your main reasons not to join CoT. Not even a week later it has happened and we act like it is a bad thing.

We were in a completely different situation at that time ED.
Now we need to adapt to our new situation and do whats best for our people.. allow them to rebuild and allow us to finally get a full congress once again

We are not going to break the NAP. We are simply fighting for our allies which we already had MPP's with and we have already been fighting for. Congress effects 40 people. Only about 10 of which actually do anything other then collect a medal. Let's get back in the game. Fortune favors the bold.

The solution to a bad choice is to make more bad choices as quickly as possible? Brilliant.

I don't think we as Congress thought this one through

http://tinyurl.com/pdcv24y

I'm more inclined to lay the blame at the feet of the individual who prompted these series of events. Our USA CP.

I would wait until I have a plan or a clearer picture. Jumping immediately into the fray without measuring the consequences could be fatal.

The fray don't start for 22 hours and we are not directly in control of anything as our citizens can do what they want. Unless we go total retard and NE Spain. Rylde may recommend that.

DMV3 already has shown a hint of support from eCanada.

I don't know what that support entails but that's as official as it gets. Even if people are free, he's our representative and if something goes wrong (or south as the case may be lol) we're all going to pay.

(I'm all for fighting against imperialists but haven't we sacrificed enough?)

The dice have already been thrown. We could officially announce our neutrality. Might even be a good idea. The MPP are in place and you cannot stop a citizen from fighting for who he wants.

True.

We can nap and dream.


Seriousness aside, the NAP has no bearing on who we support MPP wise.

Agreed, as per the written word. A new month with a new Spanish CP the NAP could be ended simply because we fought for the eUS. Terms change with new presidents. I think our best course is to steer a middle road. Similar to what the US did when we were wiped.

Back away from eUS as far as possible. Nothing but a joke there.

God forbid we go to war in a war game when push comes to shove. I can understand that having lost a war for 8 months can give us the jitters, but let's lend an ear to see what Spain has to say on the treaty and lend Bro a shoulder to cry on when gets beat up. If done right, we come out looking doubly good.

If done wrong, probably we'd be fakked for months again.

we use our MPP to help the US, also if Hungary moves to attack far eastern siberia that should be our priority to defend at all cost

A worrying situation for us all and a worrying situation for all US

You can stand up and fight or you can lay down and die. It's that simple really.

Holy Sh**, what a bunch of Nervous Nellies! Are you guys serious or just positioning yourselves politically in case things go wrong?

No direct attack, no problem. Fight with your allies like every other self respecting country worthy of being called an ally.

what J. Canuck said. Fight as ally through MPP's.