The End of TWO - What it means for Ireland?
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Hi eIreland, I’m writing this article little furious and mad, I hope you don’t mind my grammar mistakes or a bit harsh language. Many of you could witness how the strongest alliance in this game ever was actually pretty easy to fall apart. I was actually writing about this in my article - “eWorld tommorow”. Looks like I missed the date for only 18 days...fair enough I’d say.
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In that same article I said that eIrish future maybe lies together with eUK. That was pretty realistic solution since I knew Croatia and Poland will go for an alliance together. Poland would bring UK I thought and Croatia would bring Ireland. Well, I never expected UK will be there as a founding member, but they actually shocked me. There was some message leaked where United Kingdom has been a founding member of a new alliance between Croatia - Spain - Poland - UK and maybe Greece? That’s quite surprising to see them as founders? Well not really!
British Foreign Politics is probably the best in the eWorld. When your diplomats makes your middle-class country look and act as a world power then you know they are doing it right. I spoke about their politics too in my article “Ireland let’s make some progress” I know something like this could happen and I can only congratulate to United Kingdom. Well played.
I mentioned how furious I am in the beginning of the article and here’s the reason. Since the UK is a founding member of a new alliance (well deserved) I kind of expected Ireland to be put on the same level as UK is. I’ve been working hard to make that happens, but it obviously didn’t. I’ve been told Ireland won’t be able to be a founding member of that alliance. Even though I know our Foreign Politics haven’t been on British level for a good while, probably for the past two years, I expected Croatia just to “take care of us”. Well, it’s not gonna happen. I’m mad at them, but I can’t totally blame them. We’ve been really inactive and we acted as a small country while being medium strong one. We must fix ourselves, solve our issues and get more active if we expect to be somewhere on the map of global events. That’s my goal, but let’s delay this for now…
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Obviously, we’re not important enough to join the new alliance, that’s pretty much realistic, because we definatly didn’t done ANYTHING for the past 2 years. Except fighting for our allies. Ireland is a country loyal to its allies from the beginning of this game. How many similar examples one can find? And that’s what pissed me off. We’re small community, always loyal to our allies, always ready to get wiped just to make sure our allies gets help, we have so many offers to change sides and we never actually did. Even though we’d maybe be better somewhere else. We was still loyal. But, obviously the game changed, looks like dedication, loyalty and honor aren’t so important here anymore. I’ve been told that this isn’t “betrayal to Ireland” because noone said we won’t be helped by Croatia. Actually, they said they will always fight for us, no matter who are they allied to. It’s hard for me to imagine that any RL Croatian would pick a battle between Ireland and UK and fight for UK, that’s impossible. It's hard for me as RL Croatian to put my mind and set myself as eIrish. But that's what I am. eIreland is the reason I play.
Let’s bring some facts:
1. New alliance will be founded
2. Ireland won’t be a founding member
3. Croatia offers us MPP, UK offers us NAP
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Now, we can sign NAP with UK and keep MPP with Croatia, we’d be safest country in the eWorld, we’d have allies on all our borders. That sounds alright, but also boring. Since we’d be pro-New Alliance we’d probably start negotiations to get in as official members too. We’d keep fighting for our allies, old and new ones, but we’d rarely be involved in any direct wars with someone. We’d maybe be forced to fight Canada too? Downside of this option is that we'd probably all die from boredom.
On the other side, this can be a new dawn for eIreland, we can stay neutral, be “availiable on market”, see what alliance will look the best for us, maybe we won’t be surrounded by allies, but we won’t be surrounded by enemies neither, since Canada and USA are our allies and it’s hard to imagine somehting else. Maybe we become punching bag? But we won’t sell our skin cheap. Good side of this option would be - we'd have time to fix ourselves and it would certainly be more interesting.
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First of all, before making any decision, my dear eIreland, we have to solve our own mess, we have to start acting as a big country, since our history, our loyalty and our dedication makes us big. From now on, we have to pick only the most active politicians, those with idea and passion to lead us. Those who will make our IRC channels full of people, those who will make all eIrish use forum, those two things are so underestimated in eIreland. This is not my candidacy, I don’t intend to run for President, don’t get me wrong. I’ll help everyone, but I’m too busy in real-life to actually be CP. Do you know what was the last term Ireland actually had some influence in the eWorld? Back then when we was EDEN, and when we left EDEN, proved the world we’re not here for damage, proved the world we’re here for friends. Yeah, those good old days, who’s up for restoring the old glory?
I certainly am.
Don Croata,
First of all - eIrish!
Comments
CrΩmega - Loyal to the Republic!
silver medal for chuchi
Dont think that Ireland will be on the side of Spoland+UK.....
True..
Depends what the US does to a certain extent. We could give less than a good fuck about British intentions, because we can counteract any invasion of theirs with highly effective resistance wars (even before determination was introduced), but the US is a power that we cannot ignore due to their borders with us.
not to mention the deal we're stuck with so now they have part of our regions
No, that's largely irrelevent, we would still have to follow what they do or stay neutral anyway
don't make such stupid mistakes like germany did with friends & naps on all borders, your country will die within a few weeks.
Very controversial, yes the game is changing and we got to change ourselves as well.
Our politicians and leaders have to step out. We have to think on global's aspect, not only our eIrish. It's hard to adjust on that since we've been out of everything for a such a long time.
True but it is not impossible to do it.
lol don looks like you are after the el prezedene job 🙂
Nah mate...I hate that job ;__;
where is Albania ?
next to montenegro and kosovo on the adriatic coast 😛
i was asking about alliance
Going along with Croatia in same alliance, and Bosnia too.
eShqiperia ka vdeke.
Nuk ka mbet askush dhe asgje ne te 🙁
Kuptohet qe do i bashkohet aleances se Kroacise,por jo si themelues.
Good luck, UK has no quarrel with you anyway.
Many of you don't, perhaps, but there are those that see us as a plaything at this point.
There are other things to play with out there.
An enlightenment I hope most eBrits share.
It's got nothing to do with enlightenment and everything to do with cold pragmatism.
Great! Soon we will have 2 big alliances that i will hate.\o/
those good old days, who’s up for restoring the old glory?
Well Written Don from the ♥
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Out of curiousity, where is Bulgaria as an option? 😛
At least, we still do cherish "the dedication, loyalty and honor" of Irishmen 🙂
mufc will always cherry pick a few options and then present them as the only options. yes where is bulgaria?
Ireland is one of the countries whom i learned to gain a lot of respect since i joined this game (i really could name only another 5 or 6 despite Ireland).. I understand you a lot when you say that this game is more than damage, it's also about friendship, and the word Brotherhood when talking about EDEN is full of meaning.
I really would love to fight on the same side with you guys in this new eWorld o7
v o7
In case of CRO MPP and UK NAP you could do AS😉
This Croat will not fight agains Ireland.
excellent analysis v
awesome article
Mhm. Seems legit. Voted.
No matter what your decision will be, I'm on your side.
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No matter what your decision will be, I'm on your side.
+1000000000000000
Don@ me too 😉
o7
I've been saying something similar for a while, we've needed to do something to put our name out there beyond the usual stuff. Unfortunately, the government has never felt strong enough to act in such a manner, particularly on the political and financial fronts, and that was probably justified by what situation we were in before.
Things have changed with this rental agreement perhaps.
There's still plenty of space and potentional. I have feeling Ireland will grow fast soon. We'll have to open borders too.
You mean the bad rental deal we are inflicted with? The one where we are being paid an inadequate amount to compensate for the damage done to our defensive shield? The one where our defense is now committed to an unreliable nation that is not committed to our best interests? That rental agreement?
The British regularly plotted to destroy our shield themselves, the money is far more useful than the shield because we can do much more with it. As for the amount, investigation as to how much others are getting may be required, but I don't think we're being ripped off.
As for being committed to an unreliable nation, the US has always bordered us, we've always had to tread lightly where they're concerned, the rental changed nothing with regard to that.
One of the arguments used in support of the rental was that now the eUSA will be committed to our defense. That doesn't take into account they have historically proven to be committed to themselves before any other consideration. This is also the enation that wanted us to pay both sides of a MPP, at a time we were having problems.
Part of the rental deal is supposed to be to replace the economic value of the destroyed portion of our shield. There's no way it can equal it in any reasonable frame of time. We gave up something for them, it should receive a reasonable compensation.
As for using the money, we gave up an item of defense. The money that is being given toward compensation for that item isn't being used for our defense.
The deal was bad. The deal was poorly handled by the administration. Nothing since then has changed.
I personally didn't think the eUS was committed to our defence, and that was hardly the winning argument. It was entirely quid pro quo: Money for resource bonus. The eUS has no interest in fucking with us, because keeping us down is more expensive than simply paying us.
The economic value of the shield was dubious: it only has value if we're being attacked, whereas we can use money to upgrade our military infrastructure, pay for COs, launch airstrikes and any number of other things. It wasn't even deterring the British, in fact they were planning to wipe us to get rid of the shield, so if it doesn't deter and doesn't let us beat a determined invader, what use was it?
I agree that the money needs to be reprioritised to defence, but that isn't a rental agreement issue, that's a political leadership issue. Bhane chose to consult the Dail, the Dail fucked up.
We definitely are in agreement on the Dail failing in deciding the distribution of the money. I do believe the entire thing is a failure, from the negotiation, to the way it was handled by the administration, to how some were treated due to their opposition to the deal, and continuing to the Dail's failure to provide for our defense.
Bad deal, handled badly.
It's only a failure if we continue to spend the money unwisely, which I don't think we will.
Voted
I'm with options that allow us to keep abusing the eUK like they need to be abused.
It means don croata is a peder