{MoD} What Our NAP Really Means
Day 2,130, 17:29
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by klop123
Good evening eCanada,
In the recent 24 hours, many potential game changing decisions took place. First off Spain proposed our neighbor to the south as a NE. The USA responded. As all of you already know, Spain occupies four (all) of our maritime regions, New Brunswick, PEI, Nova Scotia and NFLD. We also signed a NAP with them so we could secure our other nine regions for congress and freedom. Now with the USA and Spain about to go toe to toe, there has been some confusion as to our role.
As found in our media, there are different views on how we want to approach this war. Some say not to fight either directly or indirectly, we might instigate Spain and draw ourselves into another wipe. Others prefer we take the fight to Spain, anyway we can. I urge we take another look at our NAP we agreed to with Spain and determine our options.
Here it is:
i) Spain returns Canada 9 regions for 100k cc (50k covered by myself and Chochi, leaving another 50k to be paid with congress)
ii)Spain rents N.S, NB, NFLD and PEI for 0 rent (to be revisited later)
iii) Canada will help Spain keep those regions mentioned and will not RW them
iv) A NAP is in effect between Spain and Canada
If Canada breaks the NAP:
Spain proposes Canada as a NE and secures regions lost.
If Spain breaks the NAP:
Spain owes Canada 50k cc for a passed NE proposal and any regions not part of the deal lost by Canada.
Signed,
klop123
CP of Canada
Signed,
BuIIofWar
CP of Spain
Approved by,
Spanish Congress
Canadian Executive Team
Looking at the NAP, it shows us two clear options. Either we do not do anything and nothing happens, or we fight for our allies in their war against Spain. As the NAP does not limit us to fighting in MPP battles, there would be no consequence of fighting for allies. If Spain does decide to attack us for some reason or another, they in fact owe US! They would be breaking the NAP.
While I will not tell you what to think, I just want to make sure everyone knows what our NAP really means and to an extent understand if the government makes either decision.
Thank you for your time.
As always my friends,
Stay Classy,
klop123
In the recent 24 hours, many potential game changing decisions took place. First off Spain proposed our neighbor to the south as a NE. The USA responded. As all of you already know, Spain occupies four (all) of our maritime regions, New Brunswick, PEI, Nova Scotia and NFLD. We also signed a NAP with them so we could secure our other nine regions for congress and freedom. Now with the USA and Spain about to go toe to toe, there has been some confusion as to our role.
As found in our media, there are different views on how we want to approach this war. Some say not to fight either directly or indirectly, we might instigate Spain and draw ourselves into another wipe. Others prefer we take the fight to Spain, anyway we can. I urge we take another look at our NAP we agreed to with Spain and determine our options.
Here it is:
i) Spain returns Canada 9 regions for 100k cc (50k covered by myself and Chochi, leaving another 50k to be paid with congress)
ii)Spain rents N.S, NB, NFLD and PEI for 0 rent (to be revisited later)
iii) Canada will help Spain keep those regions mentioned and will not RW them
iv) A NAP is in effect between Spain and Canada
If Canada breaks the NAP:
Spain proposes Canada as a NE and secures regions lost.
If Spain breaks the NAP:
Spain owes Canada 50k cc for a passed NE proposal and any regions not part of the deal lost by Canada.
Signed,
klop123
CP of Canada
Signed,
BuIIofWar
CP of Spain
Approved by,
Spanish Congress
Canadian Executive Team
Looking at the NAP, it shows us two clear options. Either we do not do anything and nothing happens, or we fight for our allies in their war against Spain. As the NAP does not limit us to fighting in MPP battles, there would be no consequence of fighting for allies. If Spain does decide to attack us for some reason or another, they in fact owe US! They would be breaking the NAP.
While I will not tell you what to think, I just want to make sure everyone knows what our NAP really means and to an extent understand if the government makes either decision.
Thank you for your time.
As always my friends,
Stay Classy,
klop123
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They will "owe" us?
LOL
Good luck collecting on that debt......
ya haha, we will send you Klop to go try and collect that money if they break the NAP
I highly doubt either of you could have negotiated a better deal.
not saying you did a bad job, just saying good luck getting the money from them
"First off Spain proposed our neighbor to the south as a NE" -- They NE'd Poland 😮
Closet neighbor to our south is Poland, and then Mexico, hard to see this USA you speak of....
I found it... It's located in Asia.
I guess eastern Russia is Asia, still not closet neighbour to the south eh
"As the NAP does not limit us to fighting in MPP battles, there would be no consequence of fighting for allies"
Thats up to Spanish interpretation, the NAP was never very detailed about anything
except us paying them to rent our regions
I agree it was not very detailed, but unfortunately, it was the best I could get at the time.
oh dont get me wrong, when I was in the Homer cabinet I saw the logs of negotiations and im surprised you got anything outta them
Ot wouldnt of been the choice I would of made but then I dont really care about being wiped or not
Glad to see this republished...thanks for that Klop!
My stance is, govern yourself accordingly...actions have consequences and we need to consider those consequences carefully before we act.
Kinda wants to make me put up a Canadian flag avatar and burn through my 680 Energy Bars on them
I'm eager to see who's accepted into the order of eCanada, delayed for now?
Ditto on avatar contest. ; )
But I agree that this NAP is probably a bigger issue atm. Thanks for the reminder.
Shoot, I'll get that stuff out asap! Sorry guys, totally forgot about the avatar contest
Yes, its coming along, 5 votes won't do it 😉
This is a fair NAP considering sizes of the countries. I'd prefer if Canada got more regions, but the numbers are on their side.
My advice for Canada is just to help its allies by MPP, do not jump into fight directly, you have congress and peace and you totally deserved it. I don't remember USA attacking Spanish regions in Canada. And I don't blame them.
Good luck my Cannucks o7
Fascinating Read.
V/s
We signed a Non Aggression Pact with Spain and the details of that Non Aggression Pact are laid out. Does that not make iv) redundant, as it refers to the Pact as a whole?
I looked at it as:
If i, ii, and iii are in effect, then iv is valid. Breaking i, ii, or iii renders iv no longer in effect.
I'm actually impressed how short the agreement is compared to other minor legal stuff eCanada drafts for itself. This NAP means a lot more, by comparison.
Valid points, but still, they are bigger and stronger than us so there is no way we can enforce them to pay us if they break the NAP for arbitrary reasons.
Thanks for posting this, certainly is nice to have the NAP agreement in front of us. I for one see no legal issues regarding Canadian's helping our allies in their wars. But legal systems never hold much weight in this game. If Spain were to break the NAP then theoretically yes, they owe us. Getting that money on the other hand could be quite difficult.
In the end, interesting times indeed
agreed. attacking Spain will achieve nothing and will only lead to us being wiped out again .. if we had half their numbers I'd say attack them right now but we don't .. we can do more by helping US through MPP and may be halt Hungary from entering North America
Why don't we ask them? 'So, hey, ya, um, turns out you're going to war against our Bros. How do you all feel about us fighting on their side?'
Or not...
Some of them have read this whole thread anyway.
Sigh...
We have asked and we have been reassured that as long as we don't retake those regions or dirrctly attack Spain we're not in violation of the NAP.
Finaly a voice of sence....
I'd say that they are robbing us.
o7
We attack Spain and they will fuck us up. No doubt about it.
If I was a Spaniard, I'd think we were a bunch of pussies for worrying about supporting an ally and respect us less. The NAP is only about direct war between us and Spain.
Either we support our allies or we lose all credibility as an ally for anyone and no one should waste another cent signing an MPP with us again.
There's many ways to fight. For example extending daily distributions to eUS citizens.
Is the NAP renewed every month? If so, what is valid today may not be next month...
This is a NAP that does not need renewal.
that's good to know
Stay frosty eCan. our time will come soon.
I'm tired of this debate already. I'm going to work on merc medals.
Thank you for this klop, good reliable info to refer to as we move forward.
This is a dangerous game we play with loopholes that can become nooses.