[VP] Perhaps a Different Day [VP]
Stormin EwokJedi
Regarding this article: САД у Астерији на годишњицу бомбардовања
If the translator is correct:
"Not a word of discussion within the Serbian Congress was said about bringing the United States to Asteria, although the ruling coalition was asked to explain at least why that country is being invited. Although the Minister of Foreign Affairs Free Area promised to explain this procedure of the Serbian authorities and why they will vote for the admission of the USA to Asteria, it was not done.
As an epilogue, the United States is admitted to Asteria on March 24. that is, the 22nd anniversary of the NATO bombing of the then FR Yugoslavia, in which Serbia was one of the two republics that made it up."
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Greetings to our friends in Serbia! I am a historian and am keenly aware of the pain caused on yesterday’s anniversary. What we must remember, as we look to improve the global society in real life and even in this tiny game, is:
1) We can’t be hostile towards all citizens of a country for a few leaders’ actions. For example, no one in America should be hostile towards all Muslims due to the actions of the minority of extremists who have led terrorist attacks. This is flat-out wrong and leads towards a path of pure racism and intolerant ideology.
2). The actions of the western countries in the Balkans are often seen as a disaster by American historians. What is clear is that the motivation was to stop what was perceived as ethnic cleansing. As in previous wars, we learned that we didn't have all the facts, and standard procedural rules were not followed, even called out by the then U.N. Secretary-General, Kofi Annan. The United States has a poor history of jumping into foreign conflicts, ignorant of past struggles.
3). Many of the eUSA citizens were not even alive during this time, so to hold them accountable for their ancestors' actions is not how we desire to live our lives. The United States' true goal is to judge others for who they are, not for who their parents were.
In summary, I ask that you not judge us for the actions of American real life political leaders from decades ago; but from the friendly gamers who have grown to love this game and its social interactions, or simply can't find the desire to turn it off for good. The eUSA is here to support Serbia and develop an alliance to work for common goals and make new friends in this game. Our country is not going to flip again, and we are committed to Serbia and the Asterian Alliance.
I look forward to meeting more of you and fighting alongside each other as friends
Sincerely,
Stormin EwokJedi - eUSA Vice President
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Hoping the translation is correct:
Поздрав нашим пријатељима у Србији! Ја сам историчар и изузетно сам свестан бола који изазива ова годишњица код Српског народа. Оно чега се морамо сетити, док тежимо да побољшамо глобално друштво у стварном животу, па чак и у овој малој игри, јесте:
1) Не можемо бити непријатељски расположени према свим грађанима неке земље због поступака неколицине лидера. На пример, нико у Америци не би требало да буде непријатељски настројен према свим муслиманима због деловања мањине екстремиста који су вршили терористичке нападе. Ово је сасвим погрешно и води ка путу чистог расизма и фанатичне идеологије.
2). Акције западних земаља на Балкану амерички историчари често виде као катастрофу. Јасно је да је мотивација била да се заустави оно што се доживљавало као етничко чишћење. Сазнали смо, као и у претходним ратовима, да нисмо располагали свим чињеницама и да се нису поштовала стандардна процедурална правила; коју је чак прозвао тадашњи генерални секретар Уједињених нација Кофи Анан. Сједињене Aмеричке Државе имају лошу историју уласка у стране сукобе не сагледавајући историјски контекст и комплетну слику.
3). Велики број грађана еСАД се чак нису ни родили тада, па да их осуђујемо због поступака њихових предака није начин на који желимо да водимо своје животе. Истински циљ Сједињених Америчких Држава је да оцењују људе на основу онога ко су они и шта представљлају а не ко су им били родитељи.
Укратко, молим вас да нас не осуђујете због дела америчких политичких лидера од пре неколико деценија из стварног живота; већ пријатељских играча који су заволели ову игру због њене друштвене интеракције или немогућности да је заувек искључе. еСАД је овде да подржи Србију и развије савез који ће радити на заједничким циљевима, али и стећи нове пријатеље у овој игри. Наша земља се неће поново окренути, а ми смо посвећени Србији и савезу Астерија.
Изузетно ми је драго и радује ме то што ћу вас више и боље упознати и борити се заједно са вама као пријатељиима.
С поштовањем,
Стормин Ивокџедај - потпредседник еСАД
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Аутор чланка каже да је историчар. Ако је то заиста тачно могао је бар једном реченицом да покаже да су му познате историјске чињенице и да прихвата да је српски народ потпуно неправедно сатанизован, лажно оптужен и у изрежираном злочиначком чину представљен као једини и главни кривац за сва зла која су се на Балкану догодила, да је невиђен злочин то што се Србима догодило. Није се чак ни удостојио да се извини, што би било основно и на првом месту људски, ако већ каже да су му намере пријатељске. Поред свега тога, говорећи о односу према муслиманима у својој земљи кроз причу о наводним терористима као некаквим кривцима за нападе, показао је незрелост и непоседовње критичке свести да ствари посматра другачије и ван кутије како би то они рекли. Изнео је неке смешне шаблонске, нижеразредне дипломатске флоскуле и просуо причу о жељи да сарађује са нама у игрици, а гомила вас се на то примила и све то прихватила без трунке критичког резоновања, тиме показујући робовски менталитет. А наш председник се још уз све то њему и извињава зато што су неки с наше стране показали неразумевање и мало критиковали погрешно изабран датум. Стварно срамота. Изгледа да су људи који воде Србију у овој игрици исти као и почитичари у правом животу. Битна вам је само форма. Најјаднији су ми ови Срби који међусобно нешто коментаришу на овом робовском језику.
why dont you stfu ?
What's that, Mumbles?
Need your fix again?
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This was very well said and I thank you for this my friend. We should all be working towards healing and union rather than division. Hail Serb-US! 🇷🇸🇺🇲
izete mi vi patku i jedni i drugi
won't flip again???
well written, put exactly how do you speak for those cheated by a bot script scheme, that lead to the flip - so ONE player can campaign to lead an alliance
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I don't understand where you saw hostility towards USA in the quoted article?
It was critic of the current Serbian government, their lack of democracy and the worst possible choice of date for USA entrance to Asteria.
The article itself didn't contain hostility, comments by others were hostile. #SameTeam
Dont mind stormin.. he is a wanabe clueless idiot.. he speak only on his behalf and this is his opinion.. not eUSA gov opinion.
Come on Groot. That's not true. And since he is VP I'd say it is the current eUSA gov opinion.
we all know VP position is pure BS. If this is the current Administration opinion, then they can all keep jerking up each other in their discord channel .. I be laughing on the side line 🙂
Grooty, baby. Don't be that guy. If one station goes down, the whole line goes down. You know that. Be a team player.
Heil NATO
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The article itself bears no hostility towards eUSA, it was published as a way for the public to see some behind-the-curtains things going on that wouldn't be available to them for some more time. Many of the people in the comments jumped to conclusions, seeing it as us being opposed to the idea, instead of it being nothing more than a "frown" aimed at the authorities and a way to point out the symbolism.
There are comments that are a little bit over the top, and that's not a good sign, but it's simply impossible to make everyone see exactly what you want to say. Hopefully this article will help smooth it along.
I agree with you 100% that the article had no hostility. There were comments stemming from that article that very much did. I appreciate you reading/commenting as we work to build our relationship in a positive direction.
Welcome to Asteria
Thank you! Glad to be here
Yeah I agree 100% with this article.
The date was unfortunate and all, so no problems with the eUSA gamers or the american people. My good guess is that most of you are not happy about your establishment just like we are not happy with ours.
On the other hand, eSerbian comunity is made of mostly Serbian players and although our alter-egos (online characters) are build just like in any other role-play game (imagination and alternative image of one self) it is still influenced by the life of the actual person.
That way the RL circumstances, hardships, loses and joys also have a massive impact.
Online games, among other things, is often a platform for a statement of an individual and of a collective mind.
Like some sort of a performance that is supose to vent out into the ether...
Sometimes these goals are purely microworld motivated, like achieving a certian ingame goal or landmark but at other times it reflects on the real world we live in.
I hope this will give you a better insight into many of the statements and reactions.
Welcome to Asteria, welcome to the darkside.
Hard times are upon us, hard times that will test and root out the weak and unworthy.. but always know that the empire shall rise again and bring darkness to all those who doubt.
I appreciate this comment and look forward to working with you!
Thanks!
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Dear friend,
welcome to Asteria, I personally, like many of our players, are very happy about this event, especially given this unfortunate time for this game. I sincerely ask you not to pay attention to people who absolutely do not know how to separate the game from reality, since this game is their meaning of life.
I hope for our further and strong cooperation!
Thank you and I look forward to it as well.
Personally, I appreciate the article. Words that needed to be placed out there, to leave little place ambiguities, thus potential festering of animosity triggered by unfortunate timing.
Koji moj menjate nickove ne mogu da pohvatam vise ko je na kom nalogu
ne mozes da prepoznas deseptikona Shrapnela, jednog od originalnih botova???
sramota!
Prijem!
Znam D.N. hahaha
👉First I'd like to express my gratitude for this move from the eUS government and to emphasize how important this is for us and the whole Alliance and how importantit it is that our two peoples need to work together.
👉Secondly sadly I would like to apologize for the gaffes and sabotage of our former President who is working to worsen the relationship that we are building between our countries. And who fanned the flames of hate and animosity, who opened up freshly healed wounds and is trying to create divisions both between our countries and within our own Serbia.
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👉Прво бих желео да захвалим на овом потезу владе еУС-а и да нагласим колико је ово важно за нас и целу Алијансу и колико је важно да наша два народа треба да раде заједно.
👉Друго, нажалост, желео бих да се извиним због гафова и саботаже нашег бившег председника који ради на погоршању односа који градимо између наших земаља. И који је распиривао пламен мржње и анимозитета, који је отворио свеже зацељене ране и покушава да створи поделе како између наших земаља тако и унутар наше Србије.
Оно што бих подвукао као паралелу је да у сваком друштву има кукоља...
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Докле ће само Срби да се извињавају и одакле та потреба?
Mr. Stormin EwokJedi, did you choose March 24 on purpose or random?
I didn't choose the date for the article I read. I wasn't involved with it. I did however intentionally not write my article yesterday due to the date of March 24th. The date of joining Asteria was 100% not intentional on the part of the eUS. I can assure you of that.
When you have already touched our wound.
As I said in the first article, I will not fight for americans even in a game like this, I am just a small player, don't have too much impact in a battle but I won't do even that small amount for you, because its a matter of principle, I don't respect you not here and especially in rl because of your actions not only toward my country (Serbia), but also to many other weaker and smaller nations than you, I will just list some of them because list of nations that suffered from usa is unfortunately very long: Vietnam, Cuba, Iraq, Avganistan,Serbia, Libya, Syria..
As you said, you are historian so you already know all of this I don't need to write it down, just please be honest and don't blame your father's and grandfathers for those actions because even now whole world can see that nothing is changed, your current president is doing the same thing as those before him, only difference is that now we have Russia and China to woop your behinds if you decide again to spread "democracy" against always smaller and military inferior nations, cursed only because they have oil, coal, some valuable natural element or good geographic position and that he is not that good mentally apparently..
And to conclude I don't even judge you too much, I know that whatever your government do in the future (and unfortunately history always shows us what some will do in the future) you, people of usa, will do nothing, no protests and not involvement in that actions, no anything, some of you will maybe write something maybe even walk day or two in front of some government buildings and thats it, after that many of you would enlist and go to some foreign country to spread democracy, because you all deeply inside don't care about all that, just as long dollar is strong, as long you have low gas prices, as long as gou have allot of money as long as murica is best country in the world hell yeah as you say, all the suffering from many innocent people in the world will matter nothing. Your standard comes first then all other..
So this is all you will receive from me in this game, and for the rl I just hope i would have the chance to repay you all the debt i have toward you, with interest ofc because capitalist nations like you expect nothing less..
and what will you do when government of our country does something like that? shoot yourself?
I will Go to the Russian embassy and apply for their citizenship, because if our government do that and side with them, that would mean that our country no longer exist and that we are vassals of usa like many others in the world, and I will not be a slave, vassal or cannon food for them..
aha, of course
But you would rather be a slave of the Russian oligarchy or the Chinese communists? Funny how you see capitalism and democracy as bad but authoritarianism and socialism as good. And yes every country should put their own interests and the interests of their own people first, that is why the countries of the western world are prosperous and why their people are rich. If our country or rather government ever put the interests of it's own people we would be living good as well but it's the interests of the individuals that leads our country.