Trust must be earned: why I cannot support Antonio Salgado for president
Day 375, 14:01
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by Ealb
"So i ask you eThai people. Give me a trust vote, let me show to you that i want to do it seriously and transparent. Give me a vote of Hope."
--Antonio Salgado
Antonio has asked us not just to trust him, but to give him our hope. This is a valid request, and he needed to make it. If we vote for Antonio, we will be giving him our hope that he will be a competent and decent leader. We will be trusting him to do right by us. Because we can't possibly know he'll be competent and decent, we have no assurance he'll do right. Electing Antonio is a vote of hope, but it's not a hope that a promising future will arrive so much as it is a hope that a grim past will not repeat itself. A vote for Antonio is a vote for the hope that this time, the leopard really has change its spots.
I'm not convinced.
Antonio has, to say the least, a checkered past. During Rockman's two terms, he held no political office, but he was TNT and Rockman's most vocal and ardent supporter. He joined in September's TNT "lol all criticism is jealous flaming" game, and the TNT "mimimimi" game. When TNT lost control of the Congress on October 1st, he stepped up from occasional laudatory praises of Rockman to denouncing opposition politicians as traitors who wanted to "sell" eThailand to ePakistan, and destroy the economy to fatten their company's coffers. In fairly short order, he became the most vocal member of TNT, moreso even than Rockman. When criticism of Rockman's policies were raised, he was there to defend them, without fail and without question. He wouldn't hesitate to call opposition politicians selfish, treacherous, and childish, all while expressing indifference to the state of the economy and the effects of various reckless policies on his fellow eThais.
And then the horrifically bugged October Congressional elections occurred. TNT suddenly had 26 seats out of 40. And TNT went from being note as being unresponsive and economically incompetent to horribly corrupt and actively destructive. And Antonio cheered them on.
He remained their most outspoken supporter. He began to get into discussions of policy with their Congressional representatives if he hadn't already. The infamous Czech Hospital scandal took place in all its hideous majesty. How did he respond? ""why my companies received only 10k?" (here) Fear not; his complaint was not in vain, as he received another 10k before the day was out. When asked to donate the money to Iron Bank to hold until after the November presidential election, he hemmed, hawed, claimed he'd better keep it so it didn't get stolen... oh, and reported Beorn for accusing him of corruption and lying. About this time, I assume Antonio realize that others might be able to go back through the various articles and comments he'd made, and level accusations at him. Magically, they vanished. Not all his past statements, of course, but some of them. Some nasty ones, some hostile ones. They vanished right out of comment threads, leaving the people he'd been talking to talking to themselves, with quotes from him occasionally lingering in their comments. E.g., Antonio (no longer) defends Rockman's economic policies against all comers. Now, Antonio claims this to be a strange and mysterious coincidence. I can't prove it isn't. And I emphasize that, lest I be accused of calumny. I cannot prove this because it's unprovable, but it looks very much that way indeed.
Moving onwards from this digression into apparent personal whitewashing, the opposition responded to the Czech Hospital heist with a boycott of TNT companies, organized by the author. This voluntary market manipulation was cited by Antonio as a grave violation of the eRepublik rules. Can't say which ones, because poking about and Googling the Erepublik forum fails to turn up such a post. Huh. Pretty sure it was number 10 though.
Rockman made his famous self-coronating "consititution"... and Antonio signed off on it, But don't worry, that's just playing, right? It's cool if we elect an eThai President who has openly stated since this is just a game it's totally cool if you "role play" someone "evil"... right? This was, I'm sure, why we had Antonio wandering about declaring ePakistan and eIndonesia would burn, and generally dreaming and scheming of an eThailand invaded, alongside his liege Rockman.
Under our newly crowned "emperor", Antonio continued to loudly support the destructive TNT economic policies. TNT wants to increase the minimum wage to 10 baht per day? Well, he supports it, but he was disappointed they didn't increase it to 20 as he'd suggested.
Somewhere around 25 days ago, Antonio saw the writing on the wall. Rockman was not likely to win another election. So we suddenly discovered a new, more reasonable Antonio. From the November Presidential election on, Antonio has been polite, civic, and high-minded. He finally got around to returning 20k of the 30k baht he admitted to have received from the government (21k from the Czech Hospital, the rest presumably from beta before access to the treasury was so strictly controlled). This statement was demonstrated by only 10k of what was in Iron Bank vanishing when the admins "undid" the Czech Hospital transaction.
So now we have Antonio, well-groomed and carefully diplomatic (well, for the most part). He's telling us he used to be uninvolved in eThai politics, that he had no part in the TNT corruption. He's telling us that, even if he was involved, he's reformed now. He's telling us he only wants what's best for our future.
I'm not convinced.
And I hope you're not either. I've seen him go from caustic to "playing nice" and back before. I remember him sending me a "can't we all be friends? peace and love!" (no, really) PM only days before making vulgar comments about me on his home forum. I hope the above history will help show the newcomers to eThailand why I don't trust him. I hope they won't need to learn from experience.
And if you really have changed, Antonio... that's great. I truly am glad to hear it. But the office of President is first and foremost an office of trust and responsibility. If you want our trust and hope, you need to act trustworthy. Work for the good of eThailand in a non-governmental role for a few months, and maybe we can learn to trust you. But for now, your past behavior makes you rather hard to trust indeed.
--Antonio Salgado
Antonio has asked us not just to trust him, but to give him our hope. This is a valid request, and he needed to make it. If we vote for Antonio, we will be giving him our hope that he will be a competent and decent leader. We will be trusting him to do right by us. Because we can't possibly know he'll be competent and decent, we have no assurance he'll do right. Electing Antonio is a vote of hope, but it's not a hope that a promising future will arrive so much as it is a hope that a grim past will not repeat itself. A vote for Antonio is a vote for the hope that this time, the leopard really has change its spots.
I'm not convinced.
Antonio has, to say the least, a checkered past. During Rockman's two terms, he held no political office, but he was TNT and Rockman's most vocal and ardent supporter. He joined in September's TNT "lol all criticism is jealous flaming" game, and the TNT "mimimimi" game. When TNT lost control of the Congress on October 1st, he stepped up from occasional laudatory praises of Rockman to denouncing opposition politicians as traitors who wanted to "sell" eThailand to ePakistan, and destroy the economy to fatten their company's coffers. In fairly short order, he became the most vocal member of TNT, moreso even than Rockman. When criticism of Rockman's policies were raised, he was there to defend them, without fail and without question. He wouldn't hesitate to call opposition politicians selfish, treacherous, and childish, all while expressing indifference to the state of the economy and the effects of various reckless policies on his fellow eThais.
And then the horrifically bugged October Congressional elections occurred. TNT suddenly had 26 seats out of 40. And TNT went from being note as being unresponsive and economically incompetent to horribly corrupt and actively destructive. And Antonio cheered them on.
He remained their most outspoken supporter. He began to get into discussions of policy with their Congressional representatives if he hadn't already. The infamous Czech Hospital scandal took place in all its hideous majesty. How did he respond? ""why my companies received only 10k?" (here) Fear not; his complaint was not in vain, as he received another 10k before the day was out. When asked to donate the money to Iron Bank to hold until after the November presidential election, he hemmed, hawed, claimed he'd better keep it so it didn't get stolen... oh, and reported Beorn for accusing him of corruption and lying. About this time, I assume Antonio realize that others might be able to go back through the various articles and comments he'd made, and level accusations at him. Magically, they vanished. Not all his past statements, of course, but some of them. Some nasty ones, some hostile ones. They vanished right out of comment threads, leaving the people he'd been talking to talking to themselves, with quotes from him occasionally lingering in their comments. E.g., Antonio (no longer) defends Rockman's economic policies against all comers. Now, Antonio claims this to be a strange and mysterious coincidence. I can't prove it isn't. And I emphasize that, lest I be accused of calumny. I cannot prove this because it's unprovable, but it looks very much that way indeed.
Moving onwards from this digression into apparent personal whitewashing, the opposition responded to the Czech Hospital heist with a boycott of TNT companies, organized by the author. This voluntary market manipulation was cited by Antonio as a grave violation of the eRepublik rules. Can't say which ones, because poking about and Googling the Erepublik forum fails to turn up such a post. Huh. Pretty sure it was number 10 though.
Rockman made his famous self-coronating "consititution"... and Antonio signed off on it, But don't worry, that's just playing, right? It's cool if we elect an eThai President who has openly stated since this is just a game it's totally cool if you "role play" someone "evil"... right? This was, I'm sure, why we had Antonio wandering about declaring ePakistan and eIndonesia would burn, and generally dreaming and scheming of an eThailand invaded, alongside his liege Rockman.
Under our newly crowned "emperor", Antonio continued to loudly support the destructive TNT economic policies. TNT wants to increase the minimum wage to 10 baht per day? Well, he supports it, but he was disappointed they didn't increase it to 20 as he'd suggested.
Somewhere around 25 days ago, Antonio saw the writing on the wall. Rockman was not likely to win another election. So we suddenly discovered a new, more reasonable Antonio. From the November Presidential election on, Antonio has been polite, civic, and high-minded. He finally got around to returning 20k of the 30k baht he admitted to have received from the government (21k from the Czech Hospital, the rest presumably from beta before access to the treasury was so strictly controlled). This statement was demonstrated by only 10k of what was in Iron Bank vanishing when the admins "undid" the Czech Hospital transaction.
So now we have Antonio, well-groomed and carefully diplomatic (well, for the most part). He's telling us he used to be uninvolved in eThai politics, that he had no part in the TNT corruption. He's telling us that, even if he was involved, he's reformed now. He's telling us he only wants what's best for our future.
I'm not convinced.
And I hope you're not either. I've seen him go from caustic to "playing nice" and back before. I remember him sending me a "can't we all be friends? peace and love!" (no, really) PM only days before making vulgar comments about me on his home forum. I hope the above history will help show the newcomers to eThailand why I don't trust him. I hope they won't need to learn from experience.
And if you really have changed, Antonio... that's great. I truly am glad to hear it. But the office of President is first and foremost an office of trust and responsibility. If you want our trust and hope, you need to act trustworthy. Work for the good of eThailand in a non-governmental role for a few months, and maybe we can learn to trust you. But for now, your past behavior makes you rather hard to trust indeed.
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Ealb, ok if you dont support me.
I have only this to say: people, the majority, if not everything there, is true. I enter this election not thinking that you would forgot, but forgive me and give me a chance. For this who dont want to forgive me i only have to say that: "if i am elected i will try hard to show to you my best, if i lost the elections i will try hard to show to you my best also."
thank you.
Hope you support the candidate that have the characther TRP seek and deserve. And i hope a clean competition.
Well, we must choose a president, and he is the best choice among the candidates, and I trust him after all, I really do.
You're from TNT and you support Antonio. What a surprise...
Personally I don't think that someone with a past like that should be the president.
Ok, let him earn by leading our country and stop making unecessaries articles about Antonio.
I feel that I can trust Antonio from what I have seen so far and I am prepared to look forwards and not backwards. As long as transparency is maintained, we should have nothing to fear of his possible presidency.
Excellent article Ealb. Certainly impressive and well researched!
The thing is, whoever you choose as a president, you must trust him to give your beloved country in his hands.
If you think Antonio can turn our contry in a better one, vote in him, if you have any doubts... try to solve them about all the candidates and so.
Then you can vote for a good thing, whoever you vote in.
very well put beorn.
aye aye beorn.. and great article ealb.
I live in a suburban area in the USA. Firing weapons near the vicinity of your house is frowned upon.
Well put Beorn. Antonio admits that 'most' of the things stated in that article are true (but doesn't specifify what so he can deny everything if he changes his mind). It's all but a proven fact that Antonio 'my comments seem to have dissapeared' Salgado is corrupt and a liar, and now he's trying to become to leader of eThailand. The best argument that the people who support Antonio can give is that he's active and loud and he seems to have a plan.
Well, I was not living in Thailand in that "Corruption time" of Antonio. But I saw the news about Thailand in the Press, and critized him and Rockman very much.
But now, I think he looks like more Responsible and Trustable. He also has a good experience in Thailand, so I think he could be a great president. He could make Thailand a better place for its habitants.
It's very easy to look like one has changed. All this blabber and grandstanding in the media papers as a competent and benevolent leader is very easy to do. It's action that counts. And I for one has decided based on past actions that all of Antonio's talk is unbelievable.
Between a promise and a track record, the latter is more convincing. He's playing a game, as he would say.
Beorn, I live in an area like yours, so I prefer to use poison or a butcher's knife--cleaner chop than other knifes
I would be more carefull with my words.
Whatever Antonio Did ou did not in his past doesn´t give you the right to say whatever you want.
Or should we think that you are just like him?
Nobody is perfect dude. If Antonio Wins the election we all know what the worst case scenariun is. And I really don´t think that he is stupid enough to let that happen again.
However, I'm Really curious to figured out what I guy like you Beorn080 would do with the power. Would us be your dogs? Who threat you well would be rewarned and who doesn´t would be, well let me use your own words "take it out into the woods, and put a bullet in its head"
Funny isn't? I think we all want a Better Thailand but i doubt that stupids discussions like this one where one keeps saying things about the other. I think a good polician is tho one with good ideas and not the one who tried to destroy the image of his oposite. Come on is that all tah you can do? Remember what happens in the past? That's something that everybody already knows. We are talking about the future...
gutinho- and what good ideas does Antonio have?
I don't think beorn is running (am i wrong?) but if he were, as president he would represent the country. if someone is doing good for the country, i expect them to be rewarded, and if someone does bad by the country, i expect them to be punished.
You are 100% corret Laffopuritain
If someone do something good hi or she must be rewarded and if he or she do something wrong he or she must be punished. However the TNT had already paied for his actions and everyone knows.
And another point. This is valid for actions to the COUNTRY not for one person. throw the "Very polite" comment of beorn he was not refering to the country afterall a dog can´t bite a country. I am wrong?
My thoughts on Antonio, the question that really comes to mind (I do believe in redemption), has he demonstrated enough? Is a month a long enough time to judge someone after the tenseness of last months activities. (The missing comments alarm me. I leave what I say standing on public record, I hope that it was a simple glitch.)
Is it good for eThailand to elect someone deeply involved in the Czech Hospital Scandal at this time? (I reflect upon the history and insinuations where people mock Thailand for its blatant corruption.) I would encourage people who are new to eThailand and curious about Antonio's past to message or communicate with people who have been here awhile and you feel are reasonable.
Excuse me. When did I say anyone was a dog. I DARE you to point out to me where I compared anyone to a dog. Its not there. What I stated was a comparison to various times when trust is lost. Ergo, dog biting its master, committing a felony, corrupt politicians, and committing sex crimes. In each of those cases, you remove the ability of the person losing trust to ever do such an act again. What I would do with my power has been mentioned in other articles. You will note that it is pretty much what Antonio has said he would do. However I happen to have a track record that doesn't include mysteriously deleted comments, participation in corruption, and constant ridiculing of the other political parties.
I had considered running based on the lack of a platform from Korbin King. I agree with his platform and hope my party supports him.
Oh and how exactly has TNT paid for its actions? They had the money removed from their accounts. That is all. That hardly seems to be a proper punishment for flagrant theft and attempted destruction of the free market.
I had moved to eThailand from eUSA because of a call to free the country and bring democracy. I felt it was the right thing to do to move here and spread democracy.
Since then I have enjoyed my stay here and like being a part of a great party. I joined Sabai to help the country be free. The country needs to go in the right direction that it is going in. I do not think this can happen with a former dictator.
I keep my allegiance within my party obviously because I believe in it and our leader, Jack Roberts. Please help keep the country free and continue to let us all be able to prosper.
Vote for Jack Roberts.
@gutinho
>I think a good polician is tho one with good ideas and not
>the one who tried to destroy the image of his oposite.
Um. What are Antonio's good ideas? I didn't exactly see a lot of original proposals out of him.
And who destroyed his image? He did. Unless you mean the image he spontaneously started building 25 days ago to mask the one he destroyed... the one so evident in the "missing" comments and articles... and in the memories of those who saw it first-hand...
>Come on is that all tah you can do? Remember what happens
>in the past?
Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
Tell me... if Rockman were to come along with a lovely bunch of good ideas... should we up and elect him? By your logic we should, and anyone who pointed to his past malfeasance would be playing dirty politics against a fine, superior politician, much better than them.
I'll pass on that line of reasoning, thank you.
>That's something that everybody already knows.
Um. No, not everyone knows it. We've had a lot of new people come to eThailand since the fall of Rockman. A lot of people DIDN'T know these things.
>We are talking about the future...
Yes. Exactly. We're talking about the future. Of eThailand. We're talking about who we are going to entrust with the office of President. And the only way to know if we can trust someone is to look to their past.
gutinho- beorn WAS referring to a crime against the country. Surely you can not take a single person and say "ok, this is the person antonio and tnt hurt." The crime was against the people.
I havn't been here long, and am picking all this up from the media here. If I am wrong about anything, or I am missing something, please let me know.
well, at least other parties are fighting my person, not my ideas, hope that if i dont manage to be elected at least i have a voice in the country.
I believe it is your right as a citizen of the country to have a voice. Regardless of your past.
antonio- what are your ideas?
well, just go to my newspaper and you will see my goverment plans in this articles:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/presidency1-702706/1 (plataform)
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-explaining--703043/1
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-explaining-2--703402/1
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/-explaining-3--703567/1
now, good night 😁
His platform is on its surface the same as king's. However in the first explanation he tells about his intelligence secretary and how that person will tell him wear to spend money. The second explanation is him telling eThailand that he will continue to subsidize companies that meet his standards. In the past that meant TNT controlled companies paying artificially high wages through their theft. In his third explanation he comments on his mysteriously disappearing comments from a two week period in which the news articles were aflame with the aftermath of TNT's robbery from the eThai people. Note that comments immediatly preceding the bugged congressional elections and after Jack Roberts election to the presidency were not affected.
beorn, beorn, beorn.... stop acting like a little child please..... you dont like, ok man, but again, dont change my words in this reverse propaganda.
1- the inteligence secretary is for ALL secretaries in eThai, and how I say, will help me providing me information of some investments that me, you, other secretary, and etc want to do.
2- the second one, i will not subsidize. first of all is jsut one idea go give a prize to ONE company, and not companies that meet my expectation, but of a group of people, wich in the majority are not going to be from my party( in the truth just me from my party). And how i told is just and idea.
3- in the third, yes, i comment i my disappeared comments, since my eLife is an open book i have nothing to hide.
Ealb @ - My daughter was born yesterday. So I'll talk soon.
1st - The duration in which Thailand has grown more, won more infrastructure and has consolidated itself as a country, it was for the government Rockman;
2 - I already knew that Pakistan would be dissolved. If we had GOLD, we would have attacked and at that time Thailand would have a part of the territory of Pakistan.
3 - In the Hospital scandal Czech, I got 200.000THBs (was not one hundred thousand). I do not got the Treasury Thailand. I enjoyed a bug in the system. Indeed the 100.000THBs Thailand still have the bug before. So I never got money from the Treasury Thailand.
As for my authoritarian government, I admit: I'm sorry. I thought of my way, things happen that quickly. But now I agree with the democratic system. And now I no longer ill. Now I am nice.
I hope to be a good congressman.
@ Beorn080 - I think not much happened in the Government of Jack Roberts.
This is the fault of the Jack Roberts? No! The fault is ours. It's all of us.
We have to come to terms. We have to standardize the actions of the government. I see, just like you, that Thailand has a huge export potential. We have to adopt public policies that encourage industry to do so. We have to strengthen the industry of raw material (grain, iron, wood, oil), and begin to export more. We can concentrate much gold in the coffers of Thailand. We have to make improvements in our business and increase productivity.
Parallel to this, we urgently need to Defense Systems. I encourage everyone to help the president Jack Roberts and quickly create our first Defense System.
I insist: the elected president (the Antonio has my vote), needs to form a Council and work in the same direction.
I support Antonio Salgado, because i know he can make this ecountry better, we have to trust him, Sallz for president!!!!
@Splash: Point out my flames. Dissect my comments line by line and show me where I am wrong. You have added nothing to this discussion of Antonio Salgado's trust. You have merely attempted to portray me as an abusive troll. Either that or you seem to be insisting that I am gay. Either way adds nothing to the discussion and both ways are insulting to me.
@Antonio: I haven't changed your words. Everything I said is true. The intelligence secretary is intended to inform you of investment locations. I never stated what money you were investing, merely that that was the summary of that article. You seem to have jumped to the conclusion that I was referring to corruption, which I never stated.
You are attempting to control business by dangling a carrot in front of them instead of previous TNT attempts to control business by excessive taxation. Such attempts are against the spirit of the game which includes in its rules a rule protecting the free market.
Yes your comments mysteriously disappeared. A very odd bug, which seems incredibly improbable that only one persons comments were deleted. I have heard nothing about this happening elsewhere, but since you claim it to be a bug, I along with others are giving you the benefit of the doubt, which is what you wanted. We won't however stop bringing it up especially since I was reported for a comment that happened to be in your article which happened to be deleted. Especially since the charge of calumny was unjustly leveled at me in an attempt to silence me in what was actually a legitimate charge at that time.
beorn, homosexuality is insulting for you?
@beorn, the inteligency secretary is not just about money and investments, if you really didnt change my words maybe my text was little bit confused or you are having some reading problems.
beon, i didnt claim it is a bug, a claim that some of my coments disappeared, i dont know how. Honestly talking to you, i dont have a reason to delete them, and i dont have the mood to go searching coment by coment to delete them. ANd how i said, i also dont have reasons to delete them.
@Rockman: Congratulations on your daughter. I hope you don't treat her like you treated us.
First paragraph: eThailand grew in spite of your taxation and theft. Several groups of people saw potential here and invested their time and money to help eThailand grow. Despite the massive taxes, we still managed to produce food cheaply, far cheaper then the government subsidized TNT companies, and we expanded out into housing. As a shareholder in both companies, I can state that both of them have yet to turn a profit, mostly because of the massive taxes we had to deal with during their infancy. Now that congress has implemented a sensible tax plan, we are starting to see our companies run closer to profit.
Your claim that ePakistan is weak is belied by your insistence on a defense system farther down. Either eIndonesia breaks its MPP with us to attack, in which case the defense system would hardly matter, or ePakistan is actually a threat. Those are the only two countries that can attack us. You admit that we would have attacked ePakistan under your rule but neglect to inform us how we would win. Only under Jack Roberts has the military been organized and gifting programs organized for the participants. You did none of that.
You just admitted another massive stockpile of THB. While I can't probe it, it would seem to be indicative of previous thefts and not of a bug in the system.
eThailands treasury has grown under Jack Roberts care. Despite not having the massive taxes you seem to feel were necessary, he has quintupled the gold reserve during his month in office. More companies now have an export license then ever under your rule. All industries are benefiting from reduced taxes and our land companies are self supporting. None of this occurred under your corrupt regime.
@Antonio: The only way comments disappear is either through a bug, or the person deleting them. No one else can touch another's comments. Since you just admitted that it wasn't a bug, the only other option is someone deleting them, and only one person can delete their comments.
@dinossauro: The way he used the word would have been insulting if he intended it to mean gay. Aside from the fact that flame and its derivatives are derogatory ways to refer to homosexuality, its use that way would have been intended as an insult. My sexuality isn't up for discussion, and attempts to bring it up for discussion in such are way is highly insulting. If you really wish to have a serious discussion about my preferences I am willing to discuss them elsewhere in an adult manner.
Salgado is for sure the best choice for us, he have the best plans and is a great person.
SALGADO FOR PRESIDENT
Salgado is for sure the best choice for us, he have the best plans and is a great person.
SALGADO FOR PRESIDENT
i didnt admit it wasnt a bug, i said it was strange. It wasnt me, or anyone, so maybe was a bug.
but i am not saying to everybody:
"hey, it was a bug come on!"
you are saying that, my image is the one here in the game. I didnt delete it, the only person beside me that could delete would be an admin, but i dont see reason for that, so maybe was a bug.
I already say i didnt delete it, and i really i am not really in the mood to dig out how it happened. But i already admit, what was write there wasnt very good, and everybody can imagine throw your comments.
@ beorn - Hahaha! Do not worry, I will treat my daughter well! Thank you for congratulations!
I think in my government before the V1, Thailand grew a lot and was able to buy four hospitals. I think when I missed a lot centralize things in my hands. But all right: I learned the lesson.
The eRepublik favors a democratic system and liberal economy. The more export, our country will become stronger. In other words: I hope the new president has focused his government about it.
I am not a candidate for president, but I have some ideas:
* Draw players from all over the world and build a "Thai Babel";
* Stimulate the economy from export of raw material (grain, wood, oil, iron);
* Control wages;
* Not overly enhance the BD;
* Produce Defense Systems;
* Maintain a neutral country, far from the PEACE and ATLANTIS;
* Create a permanent Council, to maintain the standard in the trading of government and help the president.
*in technical terms not everything that happens in erepublik is a bug, just for you to know, also.
@Rockman: Few questions and comments. Jack Roberts organized several recruiters to post articles in other countries about us and had the government pay for their ticket. Antonio was a member of that.
Currently we do not have quite enough resources to supply our country at least in terms of grain. I favor exporting farther along once the economy has settled down a little.
Wage control however is not needed. No one is currently forced to work for starvation wages and no one has been forced to do so.
What exactly is a BD? Not sure I've seen that before.
@Antonio: In technical terms any unintended happenings in a set of code is a bug. If the comments being deleted were unintended, that was a bug. If the admins deleted them, they would likely have sent a warning out to everyone involved. I agree that it could have been a bug.
Ok let´s just see the facts here.
TNT has a dirty past but as I said they had already paid for this.
If you guys don´t think that was enough what should the admins do?
Cut of their fingers? Banned they from the game? shot them maybe...
Everybody has a past and everybody has the right to prove that the past will stay in the past. Keep saing "someone did it, someone did that" this is easy, everyone can do that but keep the head up, try to clean up his name and not just his name but the party name as well when the hole country are against him, This is hard and this is not somethnig that anyone can do. thats why I belive in Antonio. And that´s why I belive he can do much for this country.
He is doing a lot more than talking just like you guys.
I said that a politic man need to have good ideas but before that he needs to prove himself as a man. And the Ideas Antonio already show to you guys.
I'm sorry if my comments weren't clear. I feel since they violated rules they should have been banned. The only "punishment" was the removal of the funds they stole. Like you said gutinho, before ideas the politician must be proved as a man. Antonio in my books hasn't done enough to merit trusting him and his party yet.
you can say it beorn
for you, he ll never be trustful, hypocrisy.
How is it hypocrisy for me not to trust a person who was involved in theft? Hypocrisy is saying one thing and doing another. I am saying I don't trust him and actually not trusting him. He has a chance to earn my trust by continuing to act pleasant, trustworthy, and transparent.