Should Australia Leave Eden with US/Join New Alliance?
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by Turd Fergusen
If you haven't read this article by the American president, then do so.
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/what-is-eden-doing--1264516/1/20
also this less diplomatic article by former US president Josh Frost may help you to understand where I'm coming from:
http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/usa-can-out-of-eden--1264652/1/20
In it the US president PigInZen talks about troubles the US has with Eden that I think are also very relevant to Australia's issues with Eden. During the battle of Limpopo some of the major Eden powers ignored official Eden orders and did not send adequate support, thus losing the battle and dooming our allies, South Africa, to Brazilian and Argentinian control. This was important becuase congressional elections are coming up and if a country is occupied then a congress can't be elected so there is no one to monitor citizenship. Anyone can just go to south Africa and get citizenship now, which is bad because Phoenix will most likely PTO South Africa and steal all their Titanium. The US has a good reasons to leave Eden. The US is a major contributor to the alliance financially and militarily, but seems to get no respect and attention from their European allies.
Similarly Australia is often thought of as an "unimportant" member of the Eden alliance simply because we don't have a large active population. Eden did not take our offensives into Brazilian and Argentinian controlled South Africa seriously. Even though we fought like hell, Phoenix just sent more troops. There is just no excuse for this lack in coordination within Eden. Some of the European members of Eden just don't seem to care about anything but their own interests, and leave smaller countries like us to fend for ourselves (except for Greece, they rock)
It is possible that the US will leave Eden. Not probable, but possible. But if Australia were to leave Eden, what alliance could we join?
Sol?
No. Sol kinda sucks and has no backbone.
Entente?
No, they are small and we have nothing in common.
ALA?
lol que? wats an ALA?
We could create a completely new alliance! Encompassing the brolliance of course, it could be like a great English speaking alliance. The countries of USA, Australia, Canada, Ireland, South Africa, and the UK(if they get that stick out their buttholes) could be part of this alliance. This would work out pretty well because most of these countries are already our friends, like the brolliance countries and South Africa. And even better, there won't be any more "communication problems" because we all speak English.
I'm not saying that Australia or the US will leave Eden, and they probably won't. Its just something to think about.
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Great 😃
Damn you Log18os I didn't even get first on my own article! lol
Believe me, it's my first time
i support this message
me, a no one
😉
Yanks speak English?
Seriously, though, the eastern Europeans nations in EDEN are going to concentrate on their own little part of the world first, everything else is secondary.
Agree completely. Voted up!
Also, eAus could basically tell the world, "You want our Ti? and to keep it out of Phoenix hands? Well, you better start getting our backs. Those who don't want to play get embargoed."
i.e. Love us or leave us. We should be getting plenty of love.
first you get UK out of phx, THEN you start planing this
Go away Rangu, if I wanted your opinion I would publish in Brazil.
Turd expects a lot of love from eUSA? Only if you rent them out your Diamonds/Titanium. Get real.
No wonder eAustralia turns to be a mini eUSA - because of all ex-eAMericans like you and Cerb running the popular opinion here. Oh, we have Aeros Too!. WOOT! 8 days into becoming eAustralia, turd is already "Shall eAustralia become eUSA" too?
WOOT!
I'd rather see EDEN and Phoenix gangbang USA. C'mon, you gotta admit that it'd be cool. 😉
Carr De Vaux. First of all, I'm not American anymore, and I have my own opinions and don't seek to make Australia a US puppet. Secondly, Australia and the US have had good relationships for awhile now. Its not like we all of a sudden started being best friends as soon as some exAmericans arrived. The great thing about erepublik is that you don't have to be RL Australian to be eAustralian and gain acceptance in the community. If I moved to Malyasia right now would you kick me out because I used to be an eAmerican and saying pro American things? If so, you and a fgt. Lastly, I can say whatever the f*ck I want Carr, you don't have to listen.
100% agree. That alliance would be kick ass
South Africa has long been a pawn for PHOENIX. They have always done what PHOENIX says and when EDEN asked South Africa to join their ranks last November, they declined and said they would rather stay "neutral".
Now that they need help theyre so quick to go to EDEN for help but I say screw em. They're nothing but leeches who swap allegiance according to what best serves themselves. Theyre like the UK of the South.
You'll recall when African president Ines Schumacher allowed Brazil to region swap with them so that they could attack Australia late last year?
Well, this is just payback for their betrayal (or lack thereof loyalty)
Turd - 8 days ago - you said eUSA will always be #1 and eUSA interest will always be your priority. So, don't give me the rhetoric that you can be eAustralian without being a proper kangaroo shagger. I am not even in RL malaysia if you like.
Your words and action often speak loouder than your rhetoric. So, just do us a favour - don't be hypocrite about it.
If you migrate to eMalaysia, which you are welcome to, you are entitled to your opinion too. But rest assured everyone will have their piece of mind on you too.
You can say whatever 'f***' you want, so do the rest of us. eAustralia don't have to listen to your BS (voted up by your e-americans friends/subscibers).
ps: EDEN/Phoenix gangbang of anyone (fill in ePoland,eUSA,eHungary,eRussia) would be fcking hilarious.
Sir Constant always speak the truth (for eAustralia) 😁.
@Carr
I spoke alittle harshly when I responded to your comment. You are entitled to your opinions and I'm entitled to mine. You don't have to like what I say, but a significant number of Australians feel the same way as I do. Cerb, an exAmerican may be the president, but a mostly native Australia voted for him.
As for US interests being my number one priority, that was before I decided to join Australia in full. At first I just planned to semi quit the game and two click in Australia, not really participating. But since then, the war increased my interest in the game. Since then, I've joined a party, joined the dropbears, and tanked with my own gold in support of Australia. Call me a hypocrite, but in a game such as this, is it such a big deal to change your mind about something? lol
fail fail fail....wait, that is what australia does best
that alliance would be kick ass 😃
but we may always live in fear of a knife in the back...(from the brits)
"Sol?
No. Sol kinda sucks and has no backbone."
It's crap like this that the Australian public has been fed in the last couple of months. With great success, it seems. I miss the old reasonable, hospitable and friendly Australia a lot.🙁
Oh my, I must agree with that
EDEN is old, they are no fun anymore ;p
Phoenix is different because we never got that "we are the good guys" rethoric from both Peace SG or EDEN. We are pragmatic, simple as that 😉
Thus, would be cool to see another alliance without that "let's save the world" rethoric.
Nagyzee, Sol has never had any backbone. Sure I love that eAustralia is a member of Sol but as long as eAustralia is the strongest member of an alliance, that alliance is basically screwed 😛 Sol is a great group of great countries but the sad fact of the matter is that we are all tiny countries and even combined we struggle to defend our territories.
I have to agree with Turd though about the new alliance. Canada, the US, the UK and AUS are natural allies. We all have the same backgrounds and value the same things. If the UK weren't such douchebags way back when they would have been great allies!
USA is after their titanium high. That's all folks. That's the deal.
They got High Iron in India (basically by blackmailing India into giving it "oh, look, I want Karnataka and you want protection India, right uh??". And they were able to get to Asia in the first place thanks to EDEN European allies. Without them, they'd have never set a foot in Asia.
They could perfectly defend India by mpp, or if anything, by staying in a useless region there. But, hey, these anti-imperialists... it's High Iron maaaaaan!!
You know, the "home of the brave" and so on...
They have been the most benefitted EDEN country by far, whilst the list of ruffianesque and pirate-like US treats (our "bromigos", sigh) is so long that it would be a titanic task to list it fully. Their reputation "stands high" and will "stand high" forever, undeleted, eternal.
Without EDEN-Europe, Australia is done. Depending on the USA like a pet depends on his master. Just like India. Now you do what you want, aussies, but remember that every action has consequences...
So many people forgets this simple and basic rule of life...
@Maegalodonus
lol how arrogant to say that without European EDEN we are done. European EDEN is the reason this entire issue has come up. Their arrogance and lack of care for anyone but themselves and their issues is what we are angered about. Note EDEN just lost 3 Titanium regions because their land brigde to an region that was once important but is soon to be far less important is pretty pathetic. EDEN said they would support us then backed out and sat around doing something unimportant in the scheme of things. the land bridge could have been done at any time but the safe release and subsequent safety of Australia (who also hold 2 Titanium regions)
you could even say that EDEN has been using Australia to get more damage. We help you out pay taxes to EDEN but when we are in trouble and need help you are busy doing something else.
really im sick of EDENs pathetic attitude.
Lol the one thing about US is simple Eden has problems in Europe simply because they are a EUROPEAN based alliance ok if the US did stick to the eden frickin plan than maybe croatia with there 10 MPP against BOTH serbia and Hungry could of came to help the US since they are running away from 1v1 with the serbs or the huns i see this as pure FAIL because seriously getting croatia to asia is a bit more important than getting SA liberated.
Why do people think that the US just wants Aussie diamonds/titanium? They already have access to Canadian d/t. Brolliance countries control ALL of the EDEN supply of d/t.
Australia is a vital area for both that reason and it's strategic location between Asia and Africa (which in turn leads to South America).
EDEN has definately become concentrated (again) on Europe. I've been saying for months that smaller alliances would be better for the game, but I'm not sure that right now, with a war in SA and tensions high against Indo, would be a good time to leave our super alliance
USA doesn't need Aussie titanium. It already has Canadian.
EDEN is turning back to Europe. You'd have to be blind not to see this. I think the future does lie with the Bros, but I'm not convinced that this often talked about Anlgo alliance will come about.
But with a war on out western front and tensions high with Indo leaving EDEN now is idiotic. Say what you want about their coordination in global plans, they've always helped defense wise
howiedark we have no time for traitors like you
I actually agree with this, EDEN as an alliance is being split in two directions; those that are only concerned with europe and those that are not imperialistic and want to help free other countries. We are in the latter.
It feels wrong the the UK is our enemy and we should try and bring them back into an anglosphere alliance, even if they can't play cricket 😛
what the hell seriously you think thatgetting croatia to asia so they can help FREEEEEEEEE china and India is imperialistic seriously @ adam von templar we have no time for people like you.
seriously piss off cop_the_lol. Noone likes traitors
yeah that proves that im right 🙂.
why do we should follow US? we are WE..!!! be a new Leader..!!!
awesome so i posted twice and i can't delete one. fail
Yes leave EDEN make SCOTISAWESOME
Well you didn't help us first, so what do you expect? It works both sides.
Voted and agreed
make another FORTIS and then we can WIPEOUT u again 🙂
I vote we stay together with EDEN and try to patch up our differences myself - but failing that I like TF's idea.
EDEN is in bad shape at the moment though and it's the EDEN leadership that need to take command and set a list of priorities and then ask everyone to get on board. We have to stop wasting good fights on rubbish regions and start making more strategic attacks to break down Phoenix monopoly of high quality regions.
Oh look it's another rather unsuccessful Turd's article
@Cavalcunti. Oh hai thar. My fav Brazotroll o/
quoting La Hire: I fight because I fight, so DILLIC
i must meditate upon this
@Maegalodonus - explain exactly how attempting to prevent two emerging Phoenix powers (who everyone else in EDEN seems happy to ignore, seemingly because their not in Europe) to take three future titanium regions.
Not to mention to goodwill that would be gained from helping the Saffers who have gone through more pain than any other country in the game.
Yeah totally a 'retarted' strategy.
Make EDEN better instead of creating an alliance within an alliance. Extra layers of command and control.
Security in numbers.
is it safe if we try to form new alliance?
NO WE SHOULD NOT.
And megalodonus, diplomacy was made for something and you can say the same you just said with other words, so people wont be eager to leave whichever alliance you're in. RANCIO.
Mano izquierda, joder!
yeah i think australia should team up with the other countries its time we dump them shity europeans
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