Oh God Not Now
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Joe Newton
Now I have a profound respect for the Military. I've been in the Airborne and I know how passionate they are, and how well they can do their job. But the diplomacy has to be left to the diplomats. Why?
Because the President of the United States is America for his term. He gets elected by the majority, based off promises. Because of that, and the Game Mechanics of this game, he is in charge period. The JCS are very good advisors and organizers, they do not set policy nor are they the final arbiters of where we attack and defend. If they do such, they have over stepped their bounds. The Military has become the thing that it hates. It's playing politico. I mean no disrespect when I say that, I love the military and will always respect it. It plays a vital role. But by game mechanics they cannot choose where to fight. Only the President can. That is a simple fact of the game, you cannot change it. The fact that they tried is appalling, and this needs to be fixed.
We need order in the Court. By God, did we all forget about Serbia? WE JUST DECLARED WAR ON THEM! This is the worst timing, but no use crying over spilled milk. We have to deal with this problem. The JCS of staff needs to return to it's role of Advising and organizing, because that is what it does best. The tail cannot wag the dog.
To the common soldier and common congressman: This is not your fault. This isn't even necessarily your battle. And yes it is a battle at this point.
On one side of the battle is the constitution, Harrison Richardson, Krems, Choc, Emerick and many others. On the other side is the JCS.
This is unacceptable and must stop. We must reconcile.
JCS I beg you to come home, and I beg the politicians to let them.
Who so ever trolls the other side in this matter only hurts America by making it harder to reconcile, and reconcile we must.
Our very life depends on it.
Phoenix is watching.
-Joe Newton,
Adviser to the President, Director of the OPO
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We are watching... muahahaha XD
Regards!!!
agreed sh!t storm not needed
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Good article.
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You weren't the only one saying it (did I hear you saying it?). The military would do well to realize that it serves the president, and is not an independent entity. If it wants to make its own decisions, it can do off and be an independent militia, without government funding. But I don't think many soldiers would follow.
Good article
Voted for truth.
I support HR. Long Live HR. Dio Bless eAmerica
wisdom exists in this article
Both sides are wrong. As a soldier I fight where I'm told, and that's the end of it.
Military under civilian control = cornerstone of democracy
Eexcellent joe
This is exactly what I was thinking, I remember seeing this problem before and as you say it has "popped."
@ Jarhoul, how can the commander in chief be wrong for refusing an ultimatum? Commander in Chief = Boss of Joint Chiefs
I admit I have not seen an article by NXNW so I am still waiting for his official story as he had proven time and time to be a rock solid eUS Citizen so this whole situation has me bothered.
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VOTE ITTTTTTTTT
here here
impeach HR
obv foreign troll is obv
Read, enjoyed, Voted subbed 4ever,lol!
Exactly.
President is elected.
Army officers are APPOINTED.
Good Article
I do agree that the President should have the final decision, but he should take the advice of the JCS into very careful consideration.
Nothing like a little Beer Hall Putsch to liven things up.
Vote for Truth
PTOing parties=not unity
Phoenix is watching!!!
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America will prevail
As a military man, I have no comment on the current issue.
I however take great please in telling Pizza/Ajay to shut up.
The arrogant boy who became president is hard for any pragmatic-minded person to deal with. He's smart and understands the game well. But nobody is as smart as he thinks he is. I had the same arrogance as a teenager. Then I went to graduate school and learned the difference between pride and arrogance.
However, the general theme is right: The president is the boss.
Joe ... per the Constitution, JCS decides military strategy. Not "advises".
you tell 'em joe!! very nice article indeed...
Problem is when the President clicks buttons and does things when the country and the military isn't ready, bad things happen.
Apologies for this reply from a newbie, but I am just now starting to try and figure out the political process in eUSA and there is nothing like a constitutional crisis to show were some of the problems lie. (Full disclosure: I am also a professor of political science).
It seems the constitution, while paralleling that of the US constitution, may either have left some ambiguity as to who ultimately decides when and where to deploy troops (and it seems like I can fight without officially being in the military, but perhaps I misunderstand). This is certainly the case in the US, but the ambiguity is between Congress (which has the power to declare war) and the executive (who is Commander in Chief). In many other countries, of course, civilian control of the military is unreliable at best (and, of course, in still other countries the military runs the show). The reality in the US is that the military owns the preponderance of lethal force and could topple the democratic regime (constitution or no), but there is, I would offer, a deep social norm of ultimate civilian control of the military that, even in difficult times (i.e. the weeks of uncertainty following the 2000 presidential election), inhibits any assertion of military dominance over civilian control. Such a norm may not exist in eUSA and, when paired with constitutional ambiguity about the chain of command, this may account for the issue today.
Is it possible for the military to overthrow the civilian government in eUSA (in terms of how the rules of the simulation work)? Such a possibility might lead us to alter the constitution to make the chain of command clearer. And it might cause us voters (today I became one!) to be careful in casting our votes, given the very important role military strategy and leadership play in eRepublik.
Just my two cents. Now, back to trying to figure out the parties and what PTOing is...
you misspelled Airborne...
@AlmaPoliSci : Maybe you could help us fix things!
The president is defined by the game rules, but the military was created by game players. The president is elected by all citizens of a country. Congress is also elected by citizens. The president can declare war and sign treaties with other governments, with congress approval.
The military is a VOLUNTEER organization that has a strict chain of command up to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. JCS chooses a Chairman who tells branches in the military where and when to fight. JCS should work closely with the president, but the president doesn't decide where the military fights, JCS does. (So this is decidedly different from RL.)
All citizens can fight. The military simply helps coordinate our damage. A common strategy is for an enemy to open up 5 battles when they only care about one. JCS's job is to figure out which battle the enemy cares about and then send soldiers to fight there. (It's a little more complicated, but I'm just a dumb Loot 🙂 ).
The military cannot overthrow a government, at least not in the same way it could in RL.
However ... a PTO could be possible ... A Political TakeOver is one of the nasty game strategies that the gods have not figured out how to stop. It's fairly easy to move to another country (or region) and get citizenship. If enough players from the USA move to, say, Singapore, then we can vote in our people to Congress and soon, to the Presidency. I guess a military could try a similar strategy, but the military is run by some of the most public and well known players in the game, so lots of people would notice.
Where does JCS get its authority? Leadership. Players join the military. If they are active enough and follow orders, they are allowed to stay. If they disagree with orders, they quit. If our JCS does not show outstanding leadership, the military would bail.
very true
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Joe, at some point, you're going to have to remove your nose from HR's tail. Just sayin'.
>JCS should work closely with the president, but the president doesn't decide where the military fights, JCS does.
Therein lies the problem. Since it's JCS that ultimately decides where to fight, it dictates foreign policy as well since it decides which of the allies is "worthy" of their support. This actually means that the US military is not US military at all, but instead a private military group that receives funding from the congress. Nice going!
Scadens your conclusions are confused. There is nothing private about a military that is made up of some of the most dedicated and loyal USA citizens. The names Harlot and NXNW strike fear in Feenuks players everywhere. Without the military, there would be no eUSA, but Indonesia and Russia would be much bigger.