From South Mexico to a war at the heart of Europe?
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Our last edition investigated, amongst other issues, the matter of what seemed to the world the forgotten occupation of Campeche (Mexican lands in the South of the Country) by Portugal and the continuing state of war between Mexico and Spain.
After an interview with the Mexican president, it was apparent that peace was the primary objective of the Mexican government. To research the matter further we made contacts with both the Spanish and Portuguese presidents.
Interview with the Spanish President 16.11.2008 13:24:21
1-What is stopping Spain, the second most powerful country in the world, from signing a peace agreement with Mexico?
We have nothing against Mexico but we are against Portugal, which at the same time can be an obstacle to sign a peace agreement with Mexico. We do not wish to attack Mexico but if we work together we could achieve something against Portugal.
2-What are your views about Portuguese occupation of Mexican lands?
Portugal is an enemy both of Mexico and Spain and we are working on the matter.
3-Do you mean that if Mexico helps Spain against Portugal you will be prepared to end the war with Mexico?
You have understood correctly. If Mexico supports Spain against Portugal, peace between our countries will be assured.
4-Why has Portugal become an enemy of Spain?
Portugal is hostile towards us and it has proved it by declaring a trade embargo against us for a number of days now and by not showing a conciliatory attitude.
Interview with the Portuguese President 16.11.2008 13:35:13
1-What is stopping Portugal from signing a peace agreement with Mexico?
We are in peace with Mexico.
2-Under what circumstances would you end the Portuguese occupation of Mexican lands?
We have no interest in keeping Campeche, and we will return that land to its rightful owner, the Mexican people. What concerns us is the fact that there is an active war between Mexico and Spain, and we are not sure what are the Spanish intentions towards Mexico. So our position is, and has always been that we'll freely return Campeche IF Spain signs a peace treaty with our ally Mexico and end this war, for Mexico's safety. (returning Campeche would allow Spanish government to invade Mexico).
3-What would you respond to the statement in our newspaper of President Giles of Mexico?
I've talked to Giles before, discussing this same situation. And he has an honourable position. He is willing to sign a peace treaty with Spain with no conditions. From that view its obvious who doesn't want peace in this story. All I have to do is congratulate him for his courage and diplomatic decisions, and we will support him and his government on this matter. Like I said before, the Portuguese people will return Campeche as soon as Spain accepts ending the current war.
4- Would you like to send a message to the world?
Yes indeed. Portugal is a country that respects its allies, so if returning Campeche threatens our allies' safety we won't do it. Only if we have guarantees that Mexico doesn't get endangered by this action. If some group tries to fight for the resistance of Campeche with the war between Mexico and Spain active, our country will fiercely fight against them. Portuguese people are strong and united and will fight with honour.
Mexican Statement 16.11.200815:59:40
We contacted the Mexican president again who declined a full interview given that matters of state would prevent him from talking about this issue freely. He did however provide us with the following statement:
Portugal is willing is to give us Campeche without fighting, they just want us to stop the War. The Spanish president hasn't answered to us what they plan to do.
NEWSFLASH
At the time of publishing this paper there is a Spanish proposal to go to war against Portugal, which is currently winning 14 to 8. Will this mean war at the heart of Europe once more?
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Bully, just bully. Spain may be our ally, but this seems a fishy pot. I want to know Great Britain's view of the war.
By declaring war to Portugal we retain European members of PEACE of getting fully involved in the attack to Argentina.
Whether Spain attack or not it will force them not to support Brasil.
Makcet, it seems the first objective of this war was not that one...
Spanish inner policy is too complex.
First. we hate portugal, and we will conquer if we can. Was our ally and betrayed to us on the war on mexico. Remember that mexico was ocuppied by goons. True mexicans ask to the US and Spain to conquer mexico and avoid the destruction of the country. Spain had an mmp with portugal, and portugal conquer campeche to save the goons.
On last moths portuguesse insult us too much times. Recently ... well better ask our pressident for that.
Second. Are an big internal divission on some groups. All gropus are agree on deffend argentina. All are agree on figth against portugal. All groups are agree on support atlantis.
Third. Mexico. Much spanish people want help our mexicans brothers. Spain will not conquer mexico.
Its true that 1 spanish group want conquer mexico. Its true that is the party on government, but if want conquer mexico, must figth against mexicans and against all other spaniards.
Greetings
punto such a liar.
Spain joined atlantis and betraid everyone on MA, including portugal. And you expect us to just let you conquer Mexico? If you noticed even you said, mexico WAS goons. Its not now and it was only a excuse for your imperalism, if you had conquered mexico it would now be one of your slaves, a non-goon nation.
"All gropus are agree on deffend argentina. All are agree on figth against portugal. All groups are agree on support atlantis."
That's not true, we have found support in spanish that won't attack us.
"Much spanish people want help our mexicans brothers. Spain will not conquer mexico."
That's a lie, you want to conquer it. Mexico proposed Spain a peace treaty and you asked Mexico for gold. Portugal agreed to give campeche to Mexico if you sign the treaty of peace.
GUESS WHAT YOU DID INSTEAD? You attacked Portugal. Imperalistic spanish. And now you want your allies to do your fights. Cowards.
We insult you? Poor thing, guess who start it? Guess who wrote more than 3 articles about attacking portugal even before campeche.
Don't be nervous little PHu. Are we owed to love you who consider us cowards?
We still didn't attack you, up to now we only made you not to support Brasil. I suppose they are enforcing a NGO war against our ally Argentina.
Reheated minds are worthless for diplomacy.
A story written by one hand often tends to places of sky blue and that simply aren't true.
Phusion. Read well, i am not a liar and never lie. Remember that.
Each person want read a thing... and read it. You did come here and wanted read a history of spain-portugal conflict. I didnt write that because is not important here.
I writed spanish oppinion for our british allies. The oppinion of a country NEVER is true. Ever is interested.
But dont mind. States's oppinion make the future. Are the guides of the actions of a country.
I can tell british then, that spain is an confictive country. Slow, and hard to do politic conversations. Problematic, with a lot of factions, Its true. But never forget.
If we think that great britain are our allies, are our allies. If we think that they never forgive us, we never forgive they.
On mexico's war, we thinked portugal was our allies. When we go out of MA we said that all other countries still was our allies, and we hope never could be war betheen us. We feel betrayed because that.
If portugal was not spanish ally ¿why portugal had an mpp whith spain?
PS Im sorry for my english.
@Punta Portugal is trustworthy to it's allies but we can also think with our heads...if spain conquered eMéxico what would stop them from conquering us next?(despite being allies).
also...we have always been against imperialism...we believe in being a world power not in having the world as our backyard...
The UK does not condone this war, but we will follow ATLANTIS protocol and send aid should the war transfer onto Spanish soil.
sounds like we should support portugal if you ask me
I'll say this again: Portugal and Spain have had a long rocky relationship, which was largely started by Portugal. This is a private matter, which the UK will only get involved in if it turns to Spanish soil.
well, wars are interesting and it gives everyone something to talk about, plus we aren't directly involved... yet.