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Things I have a problem with-
People in the army will have to pay 1 gold to be in the gift program.
People who wish to enter housing lotteries will have to pay 1 gold.
After a person has won a housing lotto they will have to pay a further 1 gold to participate in later housing lotteries.
Government 'Big Money Lotto' has a purchase fee of 1 gold.
An investment bank that only loans to 'some' companies.

For the others, I don't know enough to understand their impacts, but these public good lottos and gift programs that require poor people to pay to get welfare is a very bad idea, as is loaning only to 'some' companies which I assume is you saying all your friends get loans but people you don't like don't get loans.

Whoa. 15 votes and not one comment? Well, at least it means Thailand's active...

I'm a little cautious of the Lotto thing. Why exactly do we need so many again? Government revenue?

I'm not that experienced with government stuff, so there's a few things I'd like explaine😛

What does the Secretary of Labor do?
Why do you need a Vice-President? Could Lorenzo Lopes Riviera tell us something about himself?

That's all for now,
N.

Whoops, Cheeetar got in before I did. 15 votes and one comment, then...

Yeah, I was wondering about the 1 gold gift program, but I think he might be talking about the people who already have wellness over 50 or 60.

Antonio, please be a little more specific about companies that qualify for loans. Could you give us some examples right now, on which companies would be eligible?

cheeetar - army people wont have to pay for it, and also this is a base, Gentyle told me that he is going to make changes, and i am waiting them, i believe he is the best in eThai for this area 😁

nouveauk, companies that fit loans are like: John have one grain company, it is Q1, but the production is low, and majority of eThailand companies in buy Q2 grain, also the country is in need to make grain production higher. In cases of loan, if the owner show to the staff that he will afford to pay the loan it will be granted to him. other example, gift companies.. someone have gift company Q1, that is good for the country, and is willing to upgrade it to Q2... i will talk better with the staff and congress( after elections) to choose what qualify companies for the loan. But he plan for this loans are to help eThai needs, not to just help companies upgrade.

Antonio: I'd need a bit more clarity about what the government bank is aiming to do before I could agree to head it. Right now that's a dangerously vague mandate. If you can be more specific in regards to your aims, either via PM or (preferably) here, I can give you an answer.

*What does the Secretary of Labor do?
I´ve talked with Alvaro The whole week, i´ve told him that i want someone to help eThai workers and companies, it was simple task, but he show me nice plans for it and i believe that he can make a nice work.( i will wait him to show here, he show it to me in portuguese)


*Why do you need a Vice-President? Could Lorenzo Lopes Riviera tell us something about himself?

Just to do the work Ealb did, and also Lorenzo is the person I trust the most in this game. I am sure that he is also the only person capable to speak in my place, if needed.

*Ealb, goverment bank plan is to create some mechanism to help manipulating bath value( near what Jack Roberts did).

For now the country "mission" is to make baht worth more, but one thing i notice in other countries is that sometimes they need to make their coin worth less, some countries already have people working with similar mechanism to help the country economy just adding or removing baht of the market.

Also it will be right-hand in economic matters.

Having the gift program only free for people in the army is basically pressing poor people into the army. Which isn't much of a problem now that there are no wars, but later on there might be people who can't afford to go to war even with the wellness program.

cheeetar - sorry if look like that, the idea is to make people join the army in a way to make then more active and also know who is active.

x/

cheetar- being in a war doesn't HAVE to cost anything for the average soldier. you can fight with bare hands, and if done right, hospitals will heal all of your war wounds.

and if the government handed out loans to every company that wanted one, it would lose a lot of money, and could very easily harm the economy. I would like to see the government loans program implemented INSTEAD of government run companies, personally, but can see it working with both.

If Antonio wins the elections, I believe Thailand will become a prosperous place. One thing it really needs is a stable Baht, and i think the National Bank could help this immensely. Only the bank's chair (Ealb?) would have direct access to the money, so there is no reason to say Antonio's past is dangerous as to this respect.

I think he has done a great job this past month, and if he wins I will definitely be moving back.

Antonio, about your examples for upgrading companies.

The only benefit from upgrading a Q1 gift company to a Q2 gift company is that they take up less inventory space. If a Q1 company produces x gifts, a Q2 company produces x/2 (a QN produces x/N), plus the workers take a bigger hit. Not only would the money be wasted on upgrading, but the wellness program would receive more pressure.

Incidentally, if the major purpose is resuming the work Jack was doing (i.e., strengthening the baht against the Gold standard), I can get behind that. I'm willing to take the central bank position if you're elected

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Oah, big comment ealb, i read it, and will reply it as soon as possible, but i already thank you for the ideas and "critics".

I think that eThailand have a long walk, but i want this goverment to make a diference( if possible good - very good - and more then other goverments).

I really do believe that the national bank, if ran right, will stabilize the Baht. All it really needs to do is put offers for small amounts of gold on the market for increasingly more reasonable prices. This way, Thailand's currency will become more valuable (supply and demand) in respect to gold, and individuals wishing to sell their gold will have to lower their rates to compete with the government's offers.

With a more stable Baht, Thailand will look much more enticing to prospective residents, we will have more people around to end the wage wars, and there will be a reward for those who stuck around and gained Baht while it was close to worthless, since the money they earned at an inflated rate will be worth a decent amount.

As for time frames, I think the Baht can be stabilized to around 100 Baht a gold by the end of the first month, and to around 75 in 2 months if kept.

People will likely start coming here quickly after that and the wages will drop around the end of the third month.

This is all prediction, of course, and i don't claim to have an extremely strong hand on economic issues.

I do agree that government companies aren't really doing much for the country at the moment.

I believe that the loan program could be even better improved by no implementing it, and by setting up an investment group instead. a government official could help prospective employers set up a plan for companies Thailand needs, and then help them set up a stock plan and advertise for shares. This would cost the government nothing, and it would have 0 risk to taxpayers.

Well, I can't say that he's reading your mind about the loan program, given that he ultimately concludes that it could be "improved" by not implementing it...

As to his discussion of monetary manipulation... it's frankly very optimistic. We saw the first influx of v1 Gold and Jack's intervention shave about 200 baht off the price of Gold in the month of his presidency, while it's lost maybe 10-20 THB since then with no intervention. I think seeing it fall to 75 in two months is unrealistic. I'll be happy if the buying price hits 100 in two months.

>Imagine this country is a train, i will keep it in the same
>track, but i hope to make it run( or perfomance) better then
>before.

A serious effect of this is that it means very precise details become more important; if the leadership will vary little between the current administration and a challenger, differences will be exaggerated and we need to make decisions based on fine points. Currently, the plans you've outlined here don't look like a net optimization of our existing system... they seem like a lot of maintenance, plus changes amounting to a small amount of sensible optimization being dwarfed by a larger tacking on of clutter for no clear reason.

I'm still very concerned by your platform's general lack of specific economic goals for the new programs and initiatives you propose, as well as its lack of a real tax policy.

Also, why do we need to get it down to 60-70 THB per gold? Would it not achieve the same thing to say our exchange rate is what we want now, and then have wages and prices adjust to the value (in gold) of other countries?

Antonio, first of all, I want to say it's great you have laid out your policy, which is definitely a step forward for you. But there are still problematic issues which are already raised by the other people before me. Here's mines:

Theoretically, I think "Thailand Central Bank" is quite a good idea that can help coping with the enormous inflation and the exchange rate issues we have had recently. But, Antonio, you will have to show you really understand how it will work, probably by putting well-thought details, because the central bank is an very crucial mechanic that if isn't well managed will cause troubles. If you don't really know how to use it, then may be it's better for you to not touch it at all.

Its scope of work and authority must be well defined, specifying what it can and will do and what it can't and won't do, as well as how and by whom the organization would be administered.

Then there is the "Investment Bank", which, however, may not be as needed, in my opinion. And such organization is too much risky, as it unnecessarily opens up a channel for corruption, abuse, and nepotism for those in power. How can you guarantee that it will used efficiently for those that deserve the loans the most, instead of for those with close relationships with the politicians and political parties. I am talking about nepotism here, which was definitely a big problem for eThailand in the recent past.

Other than possible nepotism, there also is a corruption issue that could rise from having such an organization. With money flowing in and out the bank, how can you guarantee people controlling it won't attempt to siphon it out somewhere illegitimately. That was done in the past, even without an easy channel like this. The Czech Hospital Scandal is more than enough, I don't want to see an "Investment Bank Scandal" this time.

So, considering these issues, let's leave the loan banking to the private sector.

Hope my comments can help.

how i said ealb, taxes are there to be used in the right moments, on tax proposition that i almost regreted was to put import of grain high, we passed a short of this raw material for almost 1 week, now look like production is starting to develop good, and also national companies.

i can´t say wich taxes are going to be better now, cause( i dont if i put this already in an article) i think the president of eThai is just a citizen with more administration power( this is good), here citizens and congressman can make the diference, because is a small country, here 20 voices together have strong voice, diferent from big countries.

i accept taxes to regulate our economy, and i really think that maybe we can see with some countries( small if possible) to reduce our import tax and their to make an "exchange" of products. One thing that realy disapointed me in V1 is that you cant negotiate taxes directly with other countries 🙁

my goal with the lottos is to hel peThai population ,but at same time find a way to make them join the army, if possible.

the loan bank is a way to help in emergency cases, i dont know you, i was used to believe that State incentive was needed and good, after some visit to other countries media i´ve changed my opinion. The loan bank wont be a place where people will take a loan just to help their business, this loan bank is a place to help eThai, and i honestly think that it wont be used, or very little, but i wish to create this resource for future presidents.

i also think that put income taxes high isnt the solution for labor problem. Workers shouldnt pay for country problem( and also the GMs). but it can be used if VERY necessary followed of high VAT taxes also.

eThai have enough money in the treasure, we can keep this low taxes as a way to attract workers, and this is also a way to take money out of the market, no?

sorry if my text is little bit confuse, going to sleep, see you.

Dessa vez vai hen! 😃

"on tax proposition that i almost regreted was to put import of grain high, we passed a short of this raw material for almost 1 week, now look like production is starting to develop good, and also national companies."

Can you explain this further? It sounds like you are saying the grain market has improved.

Like I said, I'm not exactly great with the finer points of the economics. the fact is, my plan for selling gold won't work. if the selling price of gold is 200, and the government sets a more reasonable price (say 190) noone would buy the governments offer because it is worse. this would not help the situation, and I was wrong. the fact is, I can't see how the national bank exchanging money to stabilize the Baht would help. Could someone explain this to me in detail?

It seems to me, that if the government tries to make offers at more reasonable prices, it would be in the individuals best interest to take the inflated offer over the governments.

I still stand by the investment 'group', though. Which, Wisdom, is different from a loan bank as i outlined above.

The monetary market:

The government would put an offer for 1 gold = 190 THB. That is, the government puts 1 of it's gold on the market, and someone can buy it for 190 THB. So in this case, the person would take the government offer.

The alternative is for the government to sell THB. It puts 1 THB on the market at a rate of 0.005 gold (or something) and it loses it's 1 THB but gains .005 gold when someone purchases the THB. Most people concentrate on the first rate (selling gold) as a measure of the currency.

For the government to manipulate the currency market: It would have to sell it's gold and gain THB. However, there is a distinct lack of gold in eThailand, and the government would have to purchase reasonable offers using it's THB, and then reissue it on the market at a lower price. This would be a huge money sink, and require a vast amount of THB and may be met with limited success. For this reason, I'm starting to lean towards what I said in a previous comment.

There is absolutely no reason why we need to have a really low exchange rate. As long as our wages and prices are similar in terms of gold to other nations, then there is no reason why we have to our currency equal to them. I made up a quick spreadsheet of the prices of everything in the US and the UK, and the price they would have to be in THB to be equivalent in terms of gold (using the top exchange rates, we are (or were) 1 gold = 185 THB. We're pretty much right on the mark with food and gifts and similar in many other things. (As we're cheaper in other products, we're prone to poaching of products by people from other countries).

I haven't compared wages, but it is quite possible that if we look at it this way, there is no need to touch the currency market, minimal interference is required in the product markets and the wage inflation may not be as bad as initially thought.

Establishing a central bank would put us on a path towards inevitable doom...

I believe that Thailand will have a great prosperity with Antonio Salgado in the presidency.

The Antonio Salgado is currently president of the company's activities UOL Holding. The companies of the group grew exponentially, and it shows all his ability to govern.

What has been done in Thailand in the last two presidential terms? Organized the army, a program of gifts that does not work, invitations to the foreign world and a company of which Defense Systems is very difficult to produce. Yes, democracy in Thailand works much better than at the time of the Emperor.

But I want better hospitals. Defense Systems I want and I want a monetary policy and exchange rate more stable.

Currently I have no political aspirations. However, I will feel much better with the president Antonio Salgado.

I may as well just run for office again since its basically all my programs and platforms recycled. 😛

@Laffo:
>It seems to me, that if the government tries to make offers
>at more reasonable prices, it would be in the individuals
>best interest to take the inflated offer over the governments.

As Callum points out, you have this exactly backwards. We're looking at selling Gold, not baht. Selling baht releases more baht from the national treasury into the economy, thus reducing its value. Selling Gold removes baht from the economy and lets it gather dust in the treasury, increasing its scarcity "in the wild". If we want to prop up the baht, we need to use the latter mechanism. And if we're selling Gold, a buyer will certainly not take the offer with an inflated GOLD value; they'd take the offer reflecting a higher value of baht (i.e., the one offering Gold for a lower amount of currency).

>and Ealb i am used to "descentralized form of goverment.

Fair enough... up to a point. And that point is where the right hand trips the left foot because the eyes are busy watching something else.

You need to make an overarching plan that all your projects serve. Failing that, you need at a minimum to ensure none of your projects undermine each other. Right now, you have projects whose effects are at odds with each other.

On a related note, this is to some degree why I still strongly feel your tax policy, or (frankly) lack thereof is not desirable in a president. You argued above that you're naught but a citizen and thus you shouldn't have a specific plan, as that should be left to the people and Congress.

Um. No.

You would be president. You have amplified influence. You have economic policy goals. You need to determine how the eThai tax rates fit into these. Right now, by your prior statements, you haven't felt it your place to consider this. It's something that Congress should worry about, not the President... except no, it isn't. This will directly impact the outcome of some of your policies. You can't consider it to be a disconnected element of the eThai economy... in general, there ARE no disconnected parts of the economy.

So, the question needs repeate😛 what is your currently projected tax plan, and how does it relate to the rest of your platform? It can, should, and must change if circumstances change; no plan survives first contact. But there MUST be some plan to begin with...

Ealb, i already said, i believe in taxes to regulate the economy, but maybe they have to be( at my opinion) last resource.

One thin that i wont accept if i am elected is people threathening the goverment and congress with phrases such as: "If this bill passes, I will make sure my company does go on a hiring spree (which I have not been actively pursuing) and I will offer such wages that we will really see a salary war begin. "

For people that think and say like this i have to latin expressions:

-Dura Lex, Sed Lex.
-fiat justitia pereat mundi

and a personal one:

-far est ab ab hoste doceri

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I will follow all work from near, and i want to keep working( to help) in civilian recruitment office( even as president). I hope to finish with this Labor Crisis, that for me is almost solved. But i ask the GMs also to cooperate, if they dont coperate i am willing to accept the use of a punitive tax policy.

eThailand need citizens, need to grown, and to do that we need food and good quality of life.

>Ealb, i already said, i believe in taxes to regulate the
>economy, but maybe they have to be( at my opinion) last
>resource.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate. The above is a philosophy of taxation, not a plan of what tax levels you feel to be appropriate and why.

E.g., your platform calls for an increase in government spending. It also calls for work on baht deflation. It does not acknowledge that these to goals in isolation work at cross purposes. Deficit spending is transferring baht out of the treasury into the economy... thus increasing inflation. The simplest means to combat this is offsetting the increase spending with increased taxation. IOW, balancing the budget.

So. Given this clarification, how do you propose to finance your increase spending while not undermining your deflation program? If you mean to increase taxes, what sectors and to what degree?

But Antonio, even if you love "decentralized" government and prefer to create very general outlines of the bank and your policies, we still need detail and some fleshing out of what you intend to do. Ealb has valid criticisms.

I feel that you are a good guy. You clearly invest effort in this, and you really show concern and devotion to Thailand. It's wonderful that you care, and I appreciate your thoughts and charity even with the Wellness Program.

Looking at your presidential platform and the things you've listed, though, I feel as if you are just putting down things that sound forward-thinking and potentially useful. Maybe edit your article to make it reflect better and be more detailed?

"1- Work in a way to make THB worth more."
"2.3- I will try to bring goverment food company back to life."
"3- Always defend eThai interess, and work in a way to make it stronger in the international politics."
"5.1- The gvt social programs secretary will be responsible for all goverment social programs and will have the option of creating new ones and also to choose assistants."

All of these are extremely vague. I know you have talked about some of your methods in the comments section, so perhaps you could put some of what you say up in the main article?
It's great to see someone that cares for Thailand and is a good person, but I worry about the economic and political stability of Thailand if you implement all these plans with such vagueness. It might leave a lot of room to move, but a lot of people are worried that a repeat of corruption might occur through all this leniency. It's easy to say that you're going to be transparent, but these are all so opaque and vague that I've no idea how it's going to work.

Thank you, though, Antonio. I think it's heartening that you're investing the time and effort to respond to all of these.

Ok, I'll try to help out answering your questions, feel free to ask not just Antonio, but me too.

>>The problem with a high-wage, high-price economy

Thinking of it as a high-wage, high-price economy is not the way my idea should be taken. Instead of saying 1 THB should = 1 USD (or other currency) and then trying to get it to this stage, maybe we should be content with 3-4 THB = 1 USD and then adjusting our prices and wages around this. Our prices and wages will be equivalent in terms of gold, and as in most cases prices will increase, wages can increase without impacting profits.

Greece (while it existed) used to be like this. The prices at first glance seemed astronomical, but when you look at it in terms of gold instead of currency, prices were essentially equivalent to other countries. As we have a small population and hence tax income, our current treasury would have an extremely difficult time having any lasting impact on the monetary market, and any attempt, even if it fails, will still have cost a lot of money.

But adjusting wages and prices is something that can be done by the concerned general manager and the concerned citizen. More THB would probably have to be created, and to disseminate this throughout the populous, the government can offer higher wages in the industries that we need the most, either through their own countries or subsidising private ones.

At first glance, this would appear to correct our monetary market (defining it as correct already), our wages (after correcting wages to how they 'should' be, will not be as inflated or even be in the correct spot) and allow our workforce to be distributed how it should be.


At this point in time, I'm just writing my thoughts down, and haven't properly scrutinised them. If you see any glaring flaws in my argument, please point them out, or if I generate any thoughts, feel free to write them down too.

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@Callum:
>Thinking of it as a high-wage, high-price economy is not the
>way my idea should be taken.

I agree, but in terms of how much money most citizens have right now, the wages and prices ARE high. That'd be what my whole meandering ramble about "transition" was about. If we want to go down this course, we're just effectively re-valuing the monetary system, but without the ability to re-issue a new currency to reflect the incoming status quo. If we can eventually "get there", it would hopefully just be another country with just as strong currency as any other, but that uses more ink when printing money 'cause it needs a few extra zeros. 😉

As an aside, it would be nice if we could pass a bill in Congress to turn all current baht holdings and prices into "old" baht by, e.g., dividing them by 10... but that sort of thing would never fly since the admins have explicitly locked in a relation between Gold an currency by the printing mechanism. Note that I'm fully aware that any ability to "issue a replacement currency" such as it were would change exactly not one thing about the fundamental economic situation... but it would be a nice psychological trick to be able to pull... 😁

honestly i think the easiest way to finish with this wages war is the cooperation of the GMs, but they complain about lack of workers, so is a vicious circle:

eThailand economical problems create social ones that make economical grown or keep existing.

I believe much in the potential of Antonio Salgado. He is the most participatory citizen of Thailand, knows very well about the economy and proposes a decentralized government (that takes my fear that he freak equal to the Emperor). The system of government of Antonio Salgado promotes the people in control of the nation.

This is wonderful. Our republic is a democratic state of law, and I will like to participate with all the decisions.

I see that Antonio Salgado wants to keep what is good. The bad is that he wants change for the better.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/policy-not-character-why-i-cannot-support-antonio-salagado-for-president-716545/1

About Secretary of Labour tasks:

a)Make reports, about national companies and market (by products)
b)Give detaild information for new investments
c)Support companies with monetary / low employees problems
d)Support the RAW materials companies
e)Present wages tables (for government companies; can be use as a guideline for private companies)
f)Support government companies administration

Some personal ideas to debate during the presidential term:

1)Decrease the RAW materials import taxes
2)Create some subsidies for specific companies (RAW materials for example)

Other tasks and priorities can implemented during the term.

PS: Sorry for the late reply. Happy new year!

What exactly do you mean by "support"? You use the term frequently, but it's not at all clear what it means or even if it means the same things in all cases.

How exactly are the wage tables you mention to be figured? We've been hearing about these vaunted wages tables for the last month and a half, but as far as any of us know they're just arbitrary pay rankings with penalties for non-attendance. How are they to be figured, especially for government companies?

When you mention creating subsidies for private companies, you're bound to make some of the old timers (e.g., me) nervous. Can you be a little more specific? Or better, a LOT more specific?

ealb - wage table for goverment companies, but can serve as a base for private companies that decide to open here in eThai, get it?

@Ealb

When I use support, it means that when there is a specific problem, i'll be talking with people involved and discuss what we can do to go ahead. Help in problem solving!

About wage tables the objective is to control better the salaries and their inflation. Many companies are with problems because they arent giving the correct wages. This can be a guideline for general managers; in many cases it is better to have less employees than a lot with high salaries.

Finally, the subsidies.

Here in Thai we have to see an important thing, there are no high prodution regions. That's the main problem in Thai. (The RAWs are the only products that create richness to a country, all other industries just transform they) This means that RAW companies produce 1/2 of their potencial, so the price are higher and the quantity are lower.

We need to import more RAW materials. But we can never forget the national RAW companies. The only way to compete is to get them some "extra money", the subsidies.

How can the subsidies be applied?

We discuss a value for the subsidie and also we have to fix a fair price for the products. Then the companies that use the government price get the subsidie for the Thai Bank.

This is to be applied to the RAW companies. And let them give us products at a lower and fair price, having less income. But then the government give them a subsidie, so their income increase a little.

Ofcourse that before any of this things are implemented, i'll create a article with full information where we discuss better this programs.

Jack Roberts, i could give you credits and say how AWESOME you were and all of this stuff. But all this material i took not only from your goverment, but also from other goverments in eWorld.

I know it just look like, so thank you if you created all this things. 😁

Right. You should just state you have no original ideas and you really are counting on your cabinet to tell you what to do.

>About wage tables the objective is to control better the
>salaries and their inflation. Many companies are with
>problems because they arent giving the correct wages.

This actually doesn't answer the question. Of course the wage tables are going to suggest companies adhere to "correct" wage and staffing levels. That concept is inherent in the very existence of the system. What is not at all inherent is any conception of what you consider to be "correct".

In public companies, will it be to ensure full efficiency regardless of the cost to the treasury or the effect on the labor market? Will it be to staff the companies only with ideologues who will work for starvation wages? Will it be some arbitrary middle ground between the two?

In private companies, will it be to minimize prices while earning a flat 2% (4%? 8%? 20%?) profit on all production? Will it be to ensure maximum efficiency regardless of the effect on prices or the labor market? Will it be to evenly distribute the number of workers between all companies?

What you mean by "correct" in this fundamentally alters what you're proposing.

@Ealb

As I said, all this proposes need to be discussed. The "correct" should be the conclusion after we discuss.

I have introduced this concept in other country, were we first fix a selling price. Then we calculate the minimal salary, and the 5%/10% profit margin.

In the past I create subsidies to the companies that respect the government suggestions. This let us control the prices, inflation and profits; but also let the companies to have some profit margin plus the subsidie.

>As I said, all this proposes need to be discussed. The
>"correct" should be the conclusion after we discuss.

So the economic policy is to be determined at a later date? o you have any idea what you THINK it will be? Or shall the role of the MoL in this simply be polling and negotiating with the stakeholders and citizens?

>In the past I create subsidies to the companies that respect
>the government suggestions. This let us control the prices,
>inflation and profits; but also let the companies to have
>some profit margin plus the subsidie.

Um. So. You're talking about a large increase in gov't spending, then. There's still been no discussion of how this would be offset, both to keep the treasury well stocked and to avoid inflation from the depletion thereof.

I'm more than a little concerned by this, given the lack of overarching economic planning on the part of Antonio. If we have a decentralized government where assorted Ministers are undercutting each other's efforts in their various domains... that's a recipe for chaotic stagnation at best.

"But i ask the GMs also to cooperate, if they dont coperate i am willing to accept the use of a punitive tax policy."

I for one do not want a leader that promotes the equivalent of "cooperate or else". This is a country, not the mafia.