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I would like to ask 2 things : 1. that was the only battle those days? and 2. only Hungary and Romania fought with each other? : )

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"superior discipline and organization".... do you mean Gold?
btw see you next time on the battlefield.

@AThompson:
1) There were several other battles going on, and EDEN + PanAM outgunned the Bullies and Juniors by 134,000,000 Damage;

2) Both Romania and Hungary were helped by their allies. Romania fought both in Turkey and in Crisana and won on both fronts thanks to her allies (and do keep in mind Argentina, France and Brazil were absent due to their MPPs with Turkey).

To that I would add a third point:

Even without the Top 5 tanks the Hungarians cry me a river about, Romania still dealt 16,000,000 damage more than Hungary.

You can see it in Bogdan_L s article, Romania tanked more than 12K gold in the battles. Yes sure, organized and disciplined allies : ) LoL
you just made my day.

@Szitok:

Remove the Top 5 tanks on the Romanian side and keep everybody on the Hungarian side. The Romanians still beat you by 16,000,000 Damage.

So I'd say 16,000,000 additional damage dealt by the Romanian Army and civilian population speaks volumes about superior organization and discipline.

AThompson, how much gold did you ehungary spent in Crisana battle?
4000 - 6000?
It was for nothing, isn't it?

Remember "useless stupid gold consuming ping-pong war"

Who yell one mounth ago: "stop the useless war, we are bored to fight with you, make peace" romuland bla bla bla.?

Let's see if the poles will agree to constant throwing the gold on the window, in order to wipe eRomania with you.

Soon we can try it again :😁

Stats for day 1211

1. Romania: 2004 (9335) fighters, 53946420 dmg, 8083 GOLD, Weap=3233 GOLD
More than 30 fightsQ1: 48235240 dmg, 453 fighters
Between 8 and 30 fightsQ1: 4841470 dmg, 759 fighters
Less than 8 fightsQ1: 869710 dmg, 792 fighters(potential Damage 8xQ1: 14594296)

3. Hungary: 1798 (9463) fighters, 21402930 dmg, 2325 GOLD, Weap=930 GOLD
More than 30 fightsQ1: 15936570 dmg, 333 fighters
Between 8 and 30 fightsQ1: 4556810 dmg, 662 fighters
Less than 8 fightsQ1: 909550 dmg, 803 fighters(potential Damage 8xQ1: 15902776)


TOP 12 Romanians - 33.000.000 dmg
The other 1992 Romanians - 21.000.000 dmg

Look at the numbers of players on both countries.

The "zero romanian army" (including some tanks).
TOTAL Romania Army Units (63.20😵: 22.224.860 dmg, 613 fighters

You (hungarians) consider that eRomania is Bogdan Adamutz and Alex Craciun. Keep dreaming. It is better for us.

I couldn;t say it better myself : )

BJ alliance?

[sexual connotations included]

@Czygler:
Knowing what you're talking about might help you understand the statistics:

Out of the 12k gold difference, 6k is the value of weapons in their gold-equivalent. Hungary also used 2.6k gold-equivalent of weapons.

The real gold difference is 8.5k. The Romanian tanks and the members of the Romanian Army fight with the weapons they manufacture themselves. That means organization and discipline.

We can therefore attach a monetary value to the superiority in organization and discipline: during the Battle of Crisana, that superiority was worth 3.5k gold.

So yeah, I pwned you for the rest of the day

@DacusDaniel : I think the state spent ~300 gold and private tankers another who know how much, but not that much like the CH battle last month.
1. It is quite sure that you burnt a lot more, than Hungary and her allies, it wasn't worthless after all. : P
2. We didn't want to wipe out Romania. Oo Our last at least medium try were in December when we conquered two of your regions.

@mihai.cazacu : those battles won by ~2% each by one or the other side. In a battle with 10kk damage 2% is 200.000 damage, you can see what is the tanks for. : ) I'm pretty sure that if Romania would only fight against Hungary with that ~16kk dmg, then she would win all the battles she lost in Crisana. : )

I can do the maths to be favourable to one side or another, this is the magic of the statistics, but this things actually show nothing. : ) Ask for API datas from the admin team.

Actually the Hungarian and the Romanian army (just like all of the classic armies) are working in the similar way : the members are fighting with the weapons/foods what they did produced.

@mihail.cazacu: and did you win those battles because of the heavy tanking or because of the coordinated attacks? : ) or the coordinated heavy tanking? check the stats, the top 50 tankers are mostly romanians. without it, you would have lost in Crisania.
You ha game testers, we don't. that's the dirrerence, nothing more.

@AThompson:

The armies might work in the same way, but what matters is the size of the army compared to the total population. That's where difference of 3.5k gold in weapons comes from.

"$up€rior di$ciplin€ and organization"
it wa$ good to $€€ it. 🙂

Q1: are PANAM and €D€N the $am€ allianc€?
Q2: who car€$? N€xt tim€ will do b€tt€r..

Hail Romania!
Victoria Aut Mors!

@Czygler:

Romania fought both in Crisana and in Turkey and won on both fronts.

Victory was a matter of 16,000,000 additional damage from the rest of the Romanian Army and population, a matter of 134,000,000 additional damage dealt by EDEN + PanAm over the BJA (Bullies and Juniors Alliance) and of the intervention of the tanks in the key mini-battles.

When the battles were over we ended up holding Crisana and 3 Turkish regions.

To spend 8.5k gold and 3.5k gold worth of weapons on 4 provinces (1 to defend, 3 to conquer) in 2 days is very reasonable: it's 3k gold per province.

Sure, you are welcome to keep crying a river over the Top 5 tanks, game testers, credit cards, etc.

gyika, chiar a fost disciplină şi organizare.
Dacă se contiunuă aşa, o să aveţi surprize. Se pare că ne-am trezit.

Sigur că dacă nu erau tankurile pierdeam lupta, dar ţineţi cont că nu aţi luptat singuri, v-au ajutat puternic polonezii şi sârbii.

Numai uită-te la statistici să vezi diferenţa enormă de damage dintre noi şi voi.

Până la urmă nu ştiu de ce vă plângeţi.
Voi aţi format NWO ca să fiţi imbatabili, cele mai puternice ţări, cele mai puternice armate, cei mai mulţi jucători.
Trebuia să compensăm cumva.

Încă o chestie.
Noi n-am crescut ca populaţie. N-am avut niciodată baby-boom.
Sunt curios ce veţi zice când veţi vedea peste noapte 20000 de noi jucători în eRo.🙂]

Asta s-a întâmplat şi în Polonia (acum "veri" buni cu voi) şi în Turcia şi în Franţa.

ATUNCI va deveni jocul interesant.🙂]

Lol Mihail, i sometimes wonder, what the hell are u talking about ?
This battle was won , cause of tanks and u know it, other thing is that most of ur allies and pop drained their wellness to the end and they are now recovering for few days.. As Athompson said, if u want u can make statistics in favour of bouth hungary and Romania, so pls, consider what have u wrote before u publish an article like this.. Yes, call us a trolls, i dont care, but i know that this battle has been won cause of ur tanking..

Wow, there was 16mln dmg difference. So why Hungary lost 7:8 in rounds? Indeed superior discipline and organization when 16mln dmg is wasted.

Because eHungary didn't fought alone. It was helped by poles and serbs.
See the stats, it was a huge difference in damage.

TOP 12 Romanians - 33.000.000 dmg
The other 1992 Romanians - 21.000.000 dmg


thats the problem with this game...

@Sledzik:

During the battle for Crisana Romania fought 3 other battles in Turkey.

Some of that 16,000,000 damage went to capture 3 Turkish provinces, 2 which have resources we didn't have (fruits and saltpeter).

So we have actually fought 4 battles and won all 4 of them. I'd call it superior discipline and organization. Both internally and at at alliances (EDEN and PanAm) level.

Baress : Pareto will contradict you .

where Indonesia?

Dacusdaniel:
Q1: clonele care-si fac aparitia de fiecare data la alegeri (PTO partide top5 ALOT!!!!!!) nu stiu si sa lupte?
Q2: dupa parerea ta, cati romani joaca ACTIV jocul? hint: max. voturi pe un articol scris romaneste, max participanti pe chat la sfarsit de runda, etc.

So, if you think you are so strong without your admin tanks, then come on, achieve a wellness pack limit at your admin pals.
You will then still win, no? 🙂

@Baress:

And as vladb points out, there's a well known social sciences and economic phenomenon called the Pareto distribution which roughly states that 80% of the the "effects" come from 20% of the "causes."

Examples: 80% of the World population is concentrated in [approximately] 20% of the World cities, 20% of any company clients are generating 80% of the sales, roughly 80% of the real estate in any country is owned by 20% of the people and so on...

The 80-20 distribution should also manifest itself in eRepublik where there are thousands of individuals playing the game.

Speaking funny thingsXD This means that you are fanatics, and stupid to spend thousands of euros into a Game (even if it is a good game..) We spend our money to visit other countries IRL, not in this game, but you know..XD

@pulikutya:

You don't bother to think before writing, do you?

eRepublik is a _business_ for the Admins. Why would they limit the number of wellness packs? To make less money?

You know, failure to think seems widespread if I am to judge based on your media (articles and comments).

No wonder you have lost your North American empire (built through land-swaping, not through actual conquests) during the time there was a limit on the welness packs and when Hungary and Indonesia were the most populous countries in the eWorld.

When you have lost North America you not only had the advantage of a limit on wellness packs, you also had TWICE the population of Romania, the largest country in EDEN at that time.

The problem is not with wellness packs, testers, top 5 tanks, credit cards, etc. The fundamental problem is a widespread inability to think about anything else beyond "Vesszen Trianon" and "szoros talpa".

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Nem a talpa szoros, te... 🙂]

Then I have only one question left. If you are so superior in everything why did you spent so much gold on this battle?: P You could just won it with your army + population. So you Romanians are either stupid, or mihail.cazacu is stupid with his conclusions? Which one?

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I see only numbers, and statistic....

if you dont like losing here go and play another game

@AThompson:

We work on a centralized budget: we have spent that amount of gold to win 4 battles simultaneously. Some of the battles are won without gold, some need to be compensated by pouring more gold into them.

In hindsight it's easy to see the total damage could have been distributed in a more balanced way, saving some gold in the process. But that's only in hindsight. The overall cost of 4 fights was a very reasonable 4k gold for winning each province.

So you should offer 3 options:

1) the Romanians are stupid;

2) mihail.cazacu is stupid;

3) AThompson and the rest of the Hungarians who whine and cry have no clue about strategy.

I would tend to chose the third option. Here is why:

a) The First Romanian Empire was built through conquest and was lost when both Indonesia and Hungary outnumbered Romania 2 to 1;

b) By contrast, the Hungarian empire was a land-swap empire and was lost while Hungary and Indonesia still outnumbered Romania 2 to 1;

c) Romania left Hungary with only one province twice and wiped out Hungary once. Hungary couldn't do a similar feat even when the Hungarian population was outnumbering the Romanian one 2 to 1;

d) Romania managed to keep a better set of allies than Hungary, who changed alliances 3 times in 3 years, each time moving form a stronger alliance to a weaker one.

All of the above show Hungary can't think strategically even when it has the material and numerical superiority.

So for the Hungarian players if Hungary loses it's not because of stupidity but because of some evil and dishonest anti-Hungarian plot.

@vasmegye:

Yes, that's what I'm saying: the Hungarians see only numbers and statistics but have no clue what to do with the information. The do know how to pose as victims, to whine and cry about all sorts of imaginary injustices.

Top 5 did so much damage because they take money from BNR they don't really buy it with a card, they take it from tax money and whine at the rest of the population because, we, supposedly, don't do enough damage.

http://www.erepublik.com/en/article/the-pieces-of-the-puzzle-finally-start-coming-together-1713576/1/20

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I am not interested in your numbers. You wrote it, and gave us an interpretation. I can write it too, and I can give us an other interpretation. Cause just numbers. So many ppl, so much interpretations. And all have some right.

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the link above is just amazing. So good to see, how can you change your faces in some hours.

Actually it's an example of how we can keep our cards close to the chest for weeks, until everything is ready.

The good thing is you can't do the same because of your rudimentary way of playing the game. Remember your "performance" in Ukraine? Or how about your stunts in South Africa?

You will never know anything else than head-on brute force. And of course whining when it doesn't lead you anywhere.

mihail.cazacu, your bullshittalk is boring...
If this game would be operated by not romanians, but for example by swiss programmers, you would ended up long time ago in the black see.

What a shameless act is, when erep employees and/or their family members (eg The Mihai and Bogdan Adamutz) are playing this game and deciding battles...

However it is funny, how desperate you try to cover the obvious cheating by your countrymates :😁

Yes pulikutya, you are right.

Because admin give us the gold, you will be whipped every week.
And after that we will whipe eSerbia, ePoland and after that we will conquer the world.

I like your thinking.

You don't even need numbers to point out the obvious. Simply look at the comments to understand why things are as they are in this game 🙂

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Huns forgot that battle of Crisana started from 0-4 when battle of Istria was finnished. Before Battle5 romanian military units had orders for Istria.

DacusDaniel, in that case even the blind could see that it is only a game for romanians from romanians, not just the half of players, so romanian admins should hold back themselves a little.